so there’s that

A congressional oversight hearing originally scheduled to discuss, among other things, how indigenous-themed sports mascots have negatively influenced the perception of Native Americans, will now also address the linking of the name Geronimo to Osama bin Laden.

“Geronimo” was the code name for the mission where 24 Navy SEALs raided Bin Laden’s three-story million-dollar compound in Abbotabad, Pakistan; “Geronimo” was also the code the SEALs used to alert their commanders that they identified their target; and finally “Geronimo-E KIA” was the coded message to confirm that they had killed Bin Laden.

The Senate Indian Affairs committee, chaired by Sen. Daniel Akaka (D-HI), will host the hearing titled “Stolen Identities: The Impact of Racist Stereotypes on Indigenous People,” which will be webcast live at 2:15 p.m. ET.

“The hearing was scheduled well before the Osama bin Laden operation became news, but the concerns over the linking of the name of Geronimo, one of the greatest Native American heroes, with the most hated enemies of the United States is an example of the kinds of issues we intended to address at Thursday’s hearing,” Loretta Tuell, the committee’s chief counsel, said in a statement.

“These inappropriate uses of Native American icons and cultures are prevalent throughout our society, and the impacts to Native and non-Native children are devastating,” Tuell said. “We intend to open the forum to talk about them.”

“To associate a native warrior with Bin Laden is not an accurate reflection of history, and it undermines the military service of native people…

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…Geronimo died a prisoner of war at Fort Sill, Okla., in 1909. A longstanding tradition among members of Skull and Bones holds that Prescott S. Bush — father of President George Bush and grandfather of President George W. Bush — broke into the grave with some classmates during World War I and made off with the skull, two bones, a bridle and some stirrups, all of which were put on display at the group’s clubhouse in New Haven, known as the Tomb…


  1. LLoyd
    Posted May 4, 2011 at 10:16 pm |

    Baaa!!!! Sondra, I just sent a big email out to a number of the PACS I’m with on this and cracked up at this part:

    “Meanwhile, news about the code name spread quickly across Indian Country and on social network sites, resulting in a groundswell of criticism against the government. Several tribes and tribal leaders issued statements of disapproval, while many Facebook and Twitter posted angry comments, some using historical photos of the Apache leader for their profile pictures.” (Having to do with the CIA naming OBL Geronimo.)

    Geronimo is a legend (the Indian “Che” if you will) among Apaches and other Indian tribes for the fierce fighting he brought on during the 19th century as he tried to protect his land, his people and their way of life from encroachment by U.S. and Mexican armies.” (Oh excuse me I just vomited)

    I can not believe how this administration screws up as bad as it does and we have not been overtaken by the evil that surrounds us.

  2. Posted May 4, 2011 at 10:21 pm |

    Funny, using an Indian’s name wasn’t considered in bad taste when Obama made his jolly, back-slapping “shout out” to Dr. Joe Medicine Crow before casually mentioning…3 minutes later…that our troops had just been massacred by an Islamic terrorist at Fort Hood.

  3. iD
    Posted May 4, 2011 at 10:34 pm |

    There’s no trademark on the name Geronimo. It existed long before the Apache Wars and long after. Some folks get their panties wadded up so easily.

    Just wait until they use “Weishaupt”, “Lizard People”, or “Roswell”, and see who comes crawling out of the woodwork to complain. That should be interesting.

  4. PeggyU
    Posted May 4, 2011 at 11:30 pm |

    Oh, for the love of Pete. I can’t believe anyone is getting a chapped hide over this!

  5. Posted May 5, 2011 at 3:28 am |

    Sticks and stones will break my bones but words will get a congressional oversight committee investigation.

  6. Lucius Severus Pertinax
    Posted May 5, 2011 at 3:31 am |

    Personally, I would love it if the next (large) A/S missle were named “Mjolnir”

  7. Spin
    Posted May 5, 2011 at 3:31 am |

    Geronimo was not the name of the great indian warrior. His real name was Goyaałé He was named that by his Mexican enemys after he led a raid on a small mexican town on Saint Geronimo’s day. Geronimo was not an indian name. It was a mexican insult to him to commemorate the massacre of mexican citizens by the band of “savages” he led.

    So what is the big deal? The Onondaga are New York indians. Geronimo was an Apache! The most famous Onodaga was Hiawatha. Thin skined red skins just want to bitch about something. A cheap shot usuing OBL to get their names in the papers.
    STFU is the proper response to this cheap shot.

    borrowed f/ Roger in Republic @ GOC

    St. Geronomo

    ref: bing

  8. Steve Skubinna
    Posted May 5, 2011 at 5:03 am |

    This crap works because we let it work.

    Fuck ‘em. Man up and grow a pair.

  9. geezerette
    Posted May 5, 2011 at 5:19 am |

    The one thing this has brought out of the wood work is what’s wrong with some of the people in this country– I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had to put the top of my head back on by the ignorant comments from news commentators and the people they are interviewing it’s seems as if everyone has an agenda– the lies our leaders are telling and than trying to get out of when the truth is told– their biggest agenda is their #s– did you know Hillary was coughing in the picture of her while she was watching the raid? The only ones who should have an agenda are the families of the dead,the injured and their families– they are the ones who should be getting the attention.

  10. Posted May 5, 2011 at 5:57 am |

    Sticks and stones will break my bones but words will get a congressional oversight committee investigation. …. and a charge of hate crime.

    Fixed it.

  11. Posted May 5, 2011 at 6:09 am |

    Did it ever occur to these assholes that we, as warriors, use those names with reverence and respect? Giving Indian (yes, I said “Indian”) names to our most formidable weapons systems and attack platforms is an insult?

    I mean, there’s a reason we don’t call the Apache helicopter The “Kitty Cat.”

  12. apotheosis
    Posted May 5, 2011 at 6:20 am |

    IDK about no injuns, I just loves my CH-47D.

    Go Big Windy!

  13. RonF
    Posted May 5, 2011 at 7:59 am |

    I actually objected to this myself when I had thought that the name was a code word for Osama himself and not the entire operation. But it has nothing to do with Geronimo’s ethnicity. Geronimo was a brave man who fought valiantly and honorably for his way of life. That scum didn’t deserve to be identified by his name.

  14. bigviking
    Posted May 5, 2011 at 8:03 am |

    More to the point….does congress have nothing more pressing than to hold hearings on misuse of Indian Mexican names….I mean, don’t we have a deficit or something that could bear a little looking at……..
    Indians need to get a grip…the name Geronimo is now associated with the killing of OBL…not what he was or stood for……and didn’t we all yell Geronimo! when we were kids and jumped off of anything…….I think from now on I’m gonna yell Smith!…..that will probably piss someone else off….

  15. Posted May 5, 2011 at 8:11 am |

    What next????? would someone else like to be offended? Are we going to issue an apology to everyone named Charles for using “Charlie” to refer to the Viet Cong? GMAFB!

    Was/Is is offensive to refer to Russians as “Reds”?

    I think some people live such miserable, pointless, useless, unproductive lives that their favorite hobby is trying to find something that offends them, or someone they might know.

    to all the “offended from R. Lee Emry in “FMJ” — ” You make me want to puke” …..

  16. Lord of the Fleas
    Posted May 5, 2011 at 8:27 am |

    If it’s insulting to have the name Geronimo mis-appropriated, just think how everyone named Johnson must feel ……

  17. Claire: dirty, dirty wingnut
    Posted May 5, 2011 at 9:03 am |

    Geronimo, one of the greatest Native American heroes, eh?

    his real name was Goyaałé from the Chiricahua language meaning “one who yawns”; “he repeatedly attacked Mexican soldiers with a knife, causing them to utter appeals to Saint Jerome (“Jeronimo!”). Americans heard this and thought his name was Geronimo, and the name stuck.” … among his credits, “a family massacred near Silver City; one girl was taken alive and hanged from a meat hook jammed under the base of her skull.” *

    So, as someone who resisted an invading force, Geronimo/Goyaałé deserves respect. As a dangerous primitive, the use of his name for binLaden is apt.

    For a congressional oversight committee’s chief counsel to say it is “not an accurate reflection of history” may say something…

    The fact that Goyaałé/Geronimo is to this day a “hero” of Native Americans says a lot about our — and their — ability to assimilate into the melting pot…

  18. mojo
    Posted May 5, 2011 at 9:18 am |

    If the Chiricaua Apache complain, I’d be very surprised.

  19. Claire: dirty, dirty wingnut
    Posted May 5, 2011 at 9:29 am |

    UU [5] — 10++++++++++++++++++++++!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  20. Colonel Jerry USMC
    Posted May 5, 2011 at 10:03 am |

    Know what? I am fucking sick and tired of all the fucking “Monday Morning Quarterbacks” screeching and hollaring about every insignificant aspect of a successful military operation! I say we jerk their chains by posting a pitcher of Benito MussolinI & his mistress hanging upside down on a pole!

    At least it might change the fricking subject for a spell…………..

  21. geezerette
    Posted May 5, 2011 at 1:15 pm |


  22. mech
    Posted May 5, 2011 at 5:19 pm |

    Everyone who shows up to that hearing should be given their walking papers.

    Yes there are more important things to spend their time on.