Tea Party Republican Presidential Debate Open Thread

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  1. Brad
    Posted September 12, 2011 at 5:08 pm |

    I am going to miss the beginning. Just got off work. Hope they rerun tonight late.

  2. The Ugly American
    Posted September 12, 2011 at 5:13 pm |

    I thought Ron Paul was wearing a sweater there for a moment …his suit is hanging so poorly on him.

    Poor guy looks like someone’s lost grandpa who wandered up onto the stage.

  3. SondraK, TEA Party zombie
    Posted September 12, 2011 at 5:25 pm |

    They’re letting Ron Paul debate??????????????????

  4. Merovign
    Posted September 12, 2011 at 5:36 pm |

    Blanket TEA Party sentiment:


  5. J.T.
    Posted September 12, 2011 at 5:38 pm |

    Breathing cadaver Alan Colmes just got hi ass handed to him on twitter:


  6. J.T.
    Posted September 12, 2011 at 5:40 pm |

    Dang. Bad link. Try this instead.

  7. The Ugly American
    Posted September 12, 2011 at 5:57 pm |

    Is Herman Cain the only black person in the room?

    Gee, where I come from, (i.e. the real world) we call that a racist statement.

  8. Merovign
    Posted September 12, 2011 at 6:00 pm |

    And, once again, CNN’s streaming video fails to work on multiple computers.

    They never work, of all the online streaming videos, I don’t think I’ve *EVER* had a working CNN video feed.

    Either I’m on “the list” or they’re just incompetent.

    WTF is with all our debates being in enemy camps, anyway?

  9. Another Bob
    Posted September 12, 2011 at 6:05 pm |

    Romney sounds like a car salesman.

  10. The Ugly American
    Posted September 12, 2011 at 7:36 pm |

    Comment by Merovign — September 12, 2011 @ 6:00 pm

    Hmmm… streaming worked perfectly fine on my computer.

    I thought it was an outstanding debate.

    Certainly much better than that awful Fox News debate where they asked not one question on entitlements.

  11. mech
    Posted September 12, 2011 at 7:51 pm |

    I was watching Limitless and researching if there is any real stuff available that scratches the surface. . .

  12. LLoyd
    Posted September 12, 2011 at 8:09 pm |

    For the first time I see something in Bachmann tonight: she’s really pissed at these guys for taking her ‘limelight away’ and came out in attack mode on Perry in order to create some hype for her. my gawd Michele. Have you been listening to the LSM too much? What sPerry did years ago is over done finished.

    He is even one of the standout few that actually admitted he made a mistake which I am very glad he did. Talk about building CRED! But no, Bachmann wanted to moan “poor young girls being forced to doing something by a eeeeeevil gubamint.”

    Michele, I lost a reasonable amount of respect for you. I still think you might do well just staying in the House but I also think Perry answered your outrageous IMITATION of cronie capitalism when he said he was “offended that she would say he could be bought for $5,000. THAT was good.

    And Rick. Keep on Keeping On. You da Man! Yeeee Hawwwwwww!

  13. Posted September 12, 2011 at 10:15 pm |

    I thought throughout the whole debate perry and santorum were the only two who never came off sounding petty and petulant. Eagle scouts both and it shows.

  14. Hopefulone
    Posted September 13, 2011 at 1:44 am |

    Why can’t the Ron Paul and his nutjobs accept that the reason we were attacked by moslems on 9/11 is that moslems seek world domination? We have to, somehow, get some sense into the heads of libertarians so that they are allies of Constitutionalists instead of nutty, unreliable, puffed-up cancers.

    …and the HPV thing isn’t “done” or “over” if you have a child who could be forced, by the government, to take a shot that is an unnecessary risk–and for which we must pay. …in the name of “The government can run your life for you.” I don’t see any person truly, at their core, devoted to our founding principles having anything to do with the HPV fiasco.

  15. Melissa In Texas
    Posted September 13, 2011 at 5:33 am |

    Good heavens… on Guardasil.
    The ONLY reason it was mandated was so the insurance companies would cover it if the parents “opted in” for their child who might not have otherwise been able to afford it. This was and has always been a big booger to pick for the Paulbots here in Austin. It was not required to be on their shot record for school, it was PARENTAL CHOICE!
    No one held down 12 year old girls and inoculated them.
    My daughter CHOSE to take the vaccine.
    Bachmann really made a fool of herself up there.
    I had to bail from my ‘puter last night because I could not get the debate to stream and TWC sucks. I had to watch at a friend’s house.

  16. geezerette
    Posted September 13, 2011 at 6:21 am |

    Thanks for the explanation on the shot thingy M– why hasn’t anyone else enlightened us with that? Perry got stuck on the 5 thou. instead of ‘splainin’ what it was all about. Think Bachman did that on purpose? Tricky—

  17. MitchM
    Posted September 13, 2011 at 7:47 am |

    I lost all respect for Bachmann. She knew there was an opt out for the parents and still chose to lie in her attack on Perry. That’s just plain nasty. Ron Paul has pulled the same sh*t attacking Perry with half-truths, but it expected from that looney bird.

  18. Hopefulone
    Posted September 13, 2011 at 9:08 am |

    Perry bypassed the Texas Legislature by executive order in 2007–REQUIRING the vaccine for 11 year-olds. You can keep telling yourself the guys a principled conservative but I see him as another bush. He can talk all hopey-changey-conservative but he has a long way to go with me to prove he’s not selling us something.

    It’s NOT “opt-in.” Who’s spreading that BS?

    No, this is NOT like the Polio vaccine.

    Sure, there may be some high-risk populations where 11-year-old girls are exposed to HPV and increased risk of cervical cancer.

    Yes, he ordered the State to provide it free of charge to girls 9 to 18.

    Yes, the Texas legislature forced compromise, but Perry has a lot of explaining to do. (Not Bachman.)

  19. Posted September 13, 2011 at 9:30 am |

    On the hpv vaccine… You CAN get hpv even if you are a virgin. It is not just an STD. I personally know 2 women that has happened to and both, sadly, have had to be treated for cervical cancer. Luckily, both are healthy now.
    Perry’s big mistake on that one was it should have been an opt in and not an opt out.
    Bachman lost some cred with me on that attack as well. Ron Paul… Well, I knew what he was at the gate.

  20. Merovign
    Posted September 13, 2011 at 12:51 pm |

    The problem with the Gardasil “question” is that it’s been answered. Anyone who asks “why” now is either ignorant or dishonest.

    You can disagreed, but asking “why” AGAIN is just dishonest, as is implying the policy ever went into effect, because it didn’t.

  21. Melissa In Texas
    Posted September 13, 2011 at 8:09 pm |



    Bachmann has absolutely NO credibility in my eyes. Her bullshit pandering lost ANY respect I might have thought about having for her!

  22. SondraK, TEA Party zombie
    Posted September 13, 2011 at 8:43 pm |

  23. mech
    Posted September 13, 2011 at 9:16 pm |

    Prolly one of those paid beltway campaign strategists put her up to it to attempt to get her up on the heap with a stunt instead of ideas.

    She chose poorly.

  24. Melissa In Texas
    Posted September 14, 2011 at 4:48 am |


  25. Kristopher
    Posted September 14, 2011 at 6:50 pm |


    It ain’t just whether or not virgins can get it.

    If you cannot guarantee that your daughter’s husband is also a virgin on their honeymoon, then she needs this vaccine.

  26. Hopefulone
    Posted September 15, 2011 at 2:10 am |

    “If you cannot guarantee that your daughter’s husband is also a virgin on their honeymoon, then she needs this vaccine.” …when she’s 11 years old. Required by the government.

    I would like a link to the research on catching HPV through the air. I have not seen it. I do know that if all the talk on WebMD and the like is about an STD that the risk factor for non STD must be incredibly low. That means your risk aversion is higher when looking at the dangers of side effects from the inoculation. Oh, well maybe not if the government doesn’t even let individuals use their brains, free will, liberty to choose their own actions.

    We’ll see if Perry is a slick like Bush was, until his second term State of the Union, where he pulled the mask off and revealed that he was an anti-Constitution, open-borders, big-spending fraud.