Comments on: your evening sage advice http://www.sondrakistan.com/2012/04/24/your-evening-sage-advice/ Don't just do something...STAND THERE! Sun, 19 May 2013 21:13:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.5 By: ZZMike http://www.sondrakistan.com/2012/04/24/your-evening-sage-advice/#comment-49210 ZZMike Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:47:48 +0000 http://www.sondrakistan.com/?p=20818#comment-49210 <strong>Woolf</strong>: Time to retire that weapon to the slag heap..... <strong>DougM</strong>: You probably have this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTCO9GD3Q0s "I just ..... shot myself" Weapons expert demonstrates quick-draw technique. PS: True story, from court sheriff (Orange Coutry, CA): Really Bad Guy was on trial for more than we want to know about. Among the things they relieved him of was a machine gun - maybe AK-47 or such. The sheriffs took it to the range to test fire. It went full-auto, up & over, killed the policeman. Suspect it was tinkered to do just that. Woolf: Time to retire that weapon to the slag heap…..

DougM: You probably have this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTCO9GD3Q0s

“I just ….. shot myself”

Weapons expert demonstrates quick-draw technique.

PS: True story, from court sheriff (Orange Coutry, CA):

Really Bad Guy was on trial for more than we want to know about. Among the things they relieved him of was a machine gun – maybe AK-47 or such. The sheriffs took it to the range to test fire. It went full-auto, up & over, killed the policeman. Suspect it was tinkered to do just that.

]]> By: DougM (jackassophobe) http://www.sondrakistan.com/2012/04/24/your-evening-sage-advice/#comment-49075 DougM (jackassophobe) Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:29:54 +0000 http://www.sondrakistan.com/?p=20818#comment-49075 Spin (17) A full-auto 1911 is a Tommy gun without a shoulder stock or forend grip. It will eventually come up and over and shoot you in the face. By the way, if you ever have a semi-automatic's firing mechanism worked on, test-fire it with only two rounds in the magazine. [waits for folks to consider why] Yeah, you don't want that puppy full of ammo, if it happens to go full-auto. Spin (17)
A full-auto 1911 is a Tommy gun without a shoulder stock or forend grip.
It will eventually come up and over and shoot you in the face.

By the way, if you ever have a semi-automatic’s firing mechanism worked on, test-fire it with only two rounds in the magazine.
[waits for folks to consider why]
Yeah, you don’t want that puppy full of ammo, if it happens to go full-auto.

]]> By: Wollf http://www.sondrakistan.com/2012/04/24/your-evening-sage-advice/#comment-49025 Wollf Thu, 26 Apr 2012 03:24:06 +0000 http://www.sondrakistan.com/?p=20818#comment-49025 WAIT! You know me? :) WAIT! You know me? :)

]]> By: Spin http://www.sondrakistan.com/2012/04/24/your-evening-sage-advice/#comment-49024 Spin Thu, 26 Apr 2012 03:21:43 +0000 http://www.sondrakistan.com/?p=20818#comment-49024 Wollf, Alternating BENGAY ® and Icy Hot® Products may become a necessity. Wollf, Alternating BENGAY ® and Icy Hot® Products may become a necessity.

]]> By: Wollf http://www.sondrakistan.com/2012/04/24/your-evening-sage-advice/#comment-49019 Wollf Thu, 26 Apr 2012 02:58:05 +0000 http://www.sondrakistan.com/?p=20818#comment-49019 Oh, and sorry... Spin, I preordered the double barrel 2011 Auto. Dumb gun perchance, but I gotta have it! Oh, and sorry… Spin, I preordered the double barrel 2011 Auto. Dumb gun perchance, but I gotta have it!

]]> By: Wollf http://www.sondrakistan.com/2012/04/24/your-evening-sage-advice/#comment-49018 Wollf Thu, 26 Apr 2012 02:55:51 +0000 http://www.sondrakistan.com/?p=20818#comment-49018 Yannow, Doug, that is zackly why I loves you. That little surprise took the pinky Off. Never cussed though, too much to do and a new young Wife to reassure. Mil grade coagulant, wrapped it up, retrieved the digit by the time she got to the garage..... Said,"Honey, we ought to go to the Medic" You are right, and I will never overhand again. Got to make it a habit. By the by, it was an expensive malfunction...120k total, about 25k out of pocket. Had I been informed of the cost a forehand, nope. Yannow, Doug, that is zackly why I loves you. That little surprise took the pinky Off. Never cussed though, too much to do and a new young Wife to reassure. Mil grade coagulant, wrapped it up, retrieved the digit by the time she got to the garage….. Said,”Honey, we ought to go to the Medic”

You are right, and I will never overhand again. Got to make it a habit.

By the by, it was an expensive malfunction…120k total, about 25k out of pocket. Had I been informed of the cost a forehand, nope.

]]> By: Spin http://www.sondrakistan.com/2012/04/24/your-evening-sage-advice/#comment-49016 Spin Thu, 26 Apr 2012 02:30:29 +0000 http://www.sondrakistan.com/?p=20818#comment-49016 Wow, a 1911 with full auto capability. I'd need a cases of mags, a ginormous amount of ammo and... saltpeter or Helen Thomas targets. Wow, a 1911 with full auto capability. I’d need a cases of mags, a ginormous amount of ammo and… saltpeter or Helen Thomas targets.

]]> By: DougM (jackassophobe) http://www.sondrakistan.com/2012/04/24/your-evening-sage-advice/#comment-49014 DougM (jackassophobe) Thu, 26 Apr 2012 02:15:42 +0000 http://www.sondrakistan.com/?p=20818#comment-49014 Spin (14) & Wollf (15) What would I have done? Bled and undoubtedly cursed … loudly. As I said, "Of course, there are lots of other ways to get hurt." Sh*t happens. Had a 1911 I built in gunsmithing class go full-auto (stoning-angle flaw on the sear/hammer notch) after a flawless 500 rnds. Luckily, there were only four rounds left in the mag at the time. Good point on jackin' the slide. Slam-fire is not unheard-of (often due to either 1- firing-pin inertia overcoming a weak spring or 2- a projecting primer). Personally, I use the overhand only to lock the slide, not to release it. I teach folks to release it by pulling from the rear and letting go (also keeps gun pointed toward target). I bump check from below (thumb & forefinger from below bbl pull slide back ~1/8" to verify chamber is loaded). Spin (14) & Wollf (15)
What would I have done?
Bled and undoubtedly cursed … loudly.
As I said, “Of course, there are lots of other ways to get hurt.”
Sh*t happens. Had a 1911 I built in gunsmithing class go full-auto (stoning-angle flaw on the sear/hammer notch) after a flawless 500 rnds. Luckily, there were only four rounds left in the mag at the time.

Good point on jackin’ the slide. Slam-fire is not unheard-of (often due to either 1- firing-pin inertia overcoming a weak spring or 2- a projecting primer). Personally, I use the overhand only to lock the slide, not to release it. I teach folks to release it by pulling from the rear and letting go (also keeps gun pointed toward target). I bump check from below (thumb & forefinger from below bbl pull slide back ~1/8″ to verify chamber is loaded).

]]> By: Wollf http://www.sondrakistan.com/2012/04/24/your-evening-sage-advice/#comment-49008 Wollf Thu, 26 Apr 2012 00:39:14 +0000 http://www.sondrakistan.com/?p=20818#comment-49008 I will, without malice my Friend, agree with Spin on this. Sometimes, things out of our control 'happen' Weapon was pointed down and away. Finger was away from trigger along the barrel. I knew it was loaded. It took me a year to handle the pistol again, Knowing it was unloaded, a triple checking after that. It does the same thing, about every other time. Jack the slide and the hammer trips. I have handled a disparate number of weapons throughout my young life, Career, and life. Never a problem, and always Safety First. Thing I have learned.... And Spin, now pay attention...heh... I will NEVER overhand jack a slide again. Leaves your pinkie by the muzzle for malfunctions to become costly, even if the three rules are followed! I don't think I'll sue..... I am not litigious.... Hell, I hate most attorneys, I will, without malice my Friend, agree with Spin on this. Sometimes, things out of our control ‘happen’

Weapon was pointed down and away.
Finger was away from trigger along the barrel.
I knew it was loaded.

It took me a year to handle the pistol again, Knowing it was unloaded, a triple checking after that.

It does the same thing, about every other time. Jack the slide and the hammer trips.

I have handled a disparate number of weapons throughout my young life, Career, and life. Never a problem, and always Safety First.

Thing I have learned…. And Spin, now pay attention…heh… I will NEVER overhand jack a slide again. Leaves your pinkie by the muzzle for malfunctions to become costly, even if the three rules are followed!

I don’t think I’ll sue…..

I am not litigious…. Hell, I hate most attorneys,

]]> By: Spin http://www.sondrakistan.com/2012/04/24/your-evening-sage-advice/#comment-48996 Spin Wed, 25 Apr 2012 23:24:43 +0000 http://www.sondrakistan.com/?p=20818#comment-48996 DougM (11) As all 3 rules <em>were</em> followed what, in your opinion, would you have done differently? DougM (11)

As all 3 rules were followed what, in your opinion, would you have done differently?

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