who’s playing with a full deck of info, here?
Remember when O’bobo stood in front of those large, powerful trucks to tell US we’re gonna spend another decade or more in Afghanistan — because we won?
errrrrrrr…. maybe not so much.
When asked if the Taliban’s capabilities have been degraded since Obama deployed the additional troops two years ago, [Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., ] Feinstein [and Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich.] said: “I think we’d both say that what we’ve found is that the Taliban is stronger.”
Feinstein said she wishes she had the chance to meet with Pakistan’s leaders to discuss the need for more help from the country to break up the Haqqani network. Congress has passed various restrictions on U.S. aid in Pakistan after Osama bin Laden was found hiding within its borders. A recent defense policy bill would withhold 60 percent of military aid if the defense secretary can’t show the money will be effective in fighting the Taliban and ensuring Pakistan helps with efforts to counter roadside bombs.
Rogers said that he and Feinstein agree the first step should be for the U.S. to designate the Haqqani group a terrorist network and “take aggressive steps” to disrupt their operations. He said that group is responsible for nearly 500 U.S. deaths and continues to operate outposts along the Afghan-Pakistani border.
…“We ought to have a hard discussion about saying listen, war is when one side wins and one side loses,” said Rogers. “And if we don’t get to that calculation of strategic defeat of the Taliban, you’re not going to get to a place where you can rest assured that you (U.S. troops) can come home and a safe haven does not reestablish itself.”
I was just discussing this with a pal last eve. How is it even possible [or moral] for US to wander about the world ‘convincing’ people to live ‘our way’? My example was the difficulty he was having convincing me of his view; he and I being culturally waaaaaaay more similar than US and Afghani goat-herders can ever be.
The best we can do is to convince them that if they stay away from US — and we from them [that being the hard part, apparently] — they can do whatever they like. Otherwise, *B00M*
I’m all for building a [metaphoric] wall and refusing to deal with the goat-herding Islamopithecus. He – being more level-headed – maintained that we cannot continue on our merry way while ginormous parts of the world refuse/are unable to evolve into ‘modern society’.
There is no discernible progress in “winning hearts and minds.” So whatinhell is the point of hanging around over there? Stimulus money for the builders of materiel?