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Why do people invent stuff like this?
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d) Because of gov’t planning & incentives.
e) Profit
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31 Comments!
Rule for Marine aviation cadet tests: When in doubt, ( C ) out!
BFD. What’s next? Pouring piss out of a boot?
Anticipating headlines of unfortunate effects to digestive systems of consumers from super slippery substance (SSS).
Remember olestra?
Buy stock in Depends and laundry detergent.
I guess I’m simplistic, but, buy the Ketchup in the queeze bottles, store them in the fridge pop top down……
But, fixing things what ain’t broke is what they do in our Institutes of Higher leaning.(sic)
I’m with Mech. I’m suspicious about this “they promise it isn’t toxic” stuff.
Wollf solved the problem. Squeeze bottles.
Yes, I want to see that on my windshield.
And I’m wondering about the inside of gun barrels.
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Can the stuff be used to coat flexible latex thingies?
Once again we see the consequences of an active imagination, the evident disinterest of the opposite sex, and w-a-y too much time in the day with nothing better to do.
^ Walt,
*heh* I’m makin’ that (b).
Yay! Just in time for the California ban on plastic bottles!
Will it work on the replacement burlap bottles?
(Chanelling Hog Whitman):I wonder if it would serve as an alternative to KY jelly.
They said it was for the money, which I can respect.
There are a million uses, literally, I hope they make a mint and I wish I had done it.
Doubt it would survive in a barrell, but who knows? It’s not just temperature, it’s pressure, insanely high pressure.
Maybe coat bullets to reduce wear (and sometimes improve accuracy), like they do now with boron nitride and other stuff.
The catsup manufacturers will buy the patent and lock it away forever.
Not going into details but this stuff coating the inside of a Ostomy bag would be wonderful. I had to help my Dad with a colostomy and I would have given my last dime for a product like this. I guess your past always affects how you see things today?
Jess said “Catsup”!
Dairy queen was uninterested for their Blizzard cups.
Merovign (11): Maybe coat bullets…
Assuming that this substance can withstand high pressure and temperature:
I bow to the obviously superior idea. My thinking was that a major reduction in friction would allow for different powder loads, with enhanced pressure curves.
(I’m not an authority, but I was thinking of pressure peaking much sooner and remaining high for the duration of travel down the barrel. This might also allow for more complete combustion, with the possibility of higher velocity without higher recoil, since muzzle blast, etc. would be reduced.
I was also thinking that more rapid barrel transit time would allow for a marginal increase in practical accuracy. In my (limited) thinking increased barrel life was secondary, since I was interested in achieving higher performance (i.e., super-magnums in conventional form-factor cases). The result might be a little like free-boring; some people think that’s about being able to seat the bullet further out, but I seem to remember something about reducing friction in that first moment after ignition. Of course, I could be completely full of crap; since I’m not an authority, and all that.)
Your thought is so much superior that I am acutely embarrassed.
If you coat the bullets (instead of the barrel):
a) They can be used in any gun, instead of just having specialty guns to take new loads, which from safety & liability aspects is a problem that I considered, and therefore knew it could only see specialty applications, as I envisioned it. Also, the market potential is greatly increased, since coated bullet rounds would shoot in any existing firearm chambered for the cartridges.
b) The coating can be much less durable, since it only has to survive one trip down the barrel.
c) As you point out, reduced barrel wear, to the extent that is the result of friction.
Caveat: depending on design, coated bullet penetration might be increased. This might or might not be a good thing performance wise, although with expanding bullets, construction is going to be more of a determining factor than surface friction coefficient. Buy it surely would give fuel to gun control
activistsfruitcakesjackasses carrying on about “the new Super-Tefflon coated, armor piercing, cop killer bullet; regardless of what it actually would or would not do.A brilliant new application: a quick application salve to coat the birth canal just before delivery.
The expectant mother just gives one heave and out pops the brand new baby.
Fat Baxter (10): you beat me to it, and yes, I though of Hog. But I’m just thinking… a nearly friction free environment? Mightn’t that be too much of a good thing?
And just a (possibly) happy though: imagine coating playground sliding boards with it: WHOOSH!!!! ;-D
Coat the streets for the next #Occupy…
The movements will slide right off!!!
Ironic: I’m not an “authority” but I’m familiar with the subject.
I doubt it would significantly increase efficiency (some but not much), if there was actually less barrel transit time (less of this is friction than you think), it would mean less time to accelerate and thus a lower velocity or a faster-burning powder (or both).
I don’t know why anyone thought that Teflon would make bullets penetrate armor. It’s just a fundamental mangling of the physics of the situation.
The primary reason to coat the bullets instead of the barrel (instead of both) is the total time the coating is in contact with the heat and pressure – minimal. Though some rifle barrels are boron-nitride coated *now*, primarily expensive competition rifle barrels and a few handguns.
Both Beretta’s Bruniton finish and Glock’s Tenifer are forms of nitriding, BTW, though not low-friction versions (deliberately).
To sum up, worth doing, probably won’t increase performance, probably will reduce wear, probably not as much as you think.
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2012/03/hexagonal-boron-nitride-hbn-how-well-does-it-work/
Merovign ^ Interesting link, though not encouraging. I’m likely engaged in fantasy, though I suppose there’s no harm in that.
Friction: yes, I assumed a different, faster burning powder, preferably designed for the specific barrel length.
I don’t know why anyone thought that Teflon would make bullets penetrate armor. The same reason they thought the “plastic” Glock would be undetectable by metal detecters & x-ray scanners. Complete ignorance of facts, plus it was a great, pseudo-science, panic fantasy they could use to sell their agenda. A bit like global warming.
(Chanelling Hog Whitman):I wonder if it would serve as an alternative to KY jelly.
I really don’t think I’ve spent my entire life only to be remembered as some kind of vaginal lubricant. Or maybe I have.
I can tell you this, though: If you treat ‘em right, you won’t need no lubricant. They will manufacture it themselves. Just keep telling them how pretty they are. Works every time!
I should charge for this shit.
Holy whuh!! This started out as a post on an invention to get ketchup out of a bottle—-and ends up as vag. lube—gotta love it.
^ vag. lube? I thought we were talking about something to help out with proctol exams. I was just hoping there was help here proctologists and their patients.
Hog (21):
If you ever graduate from the late teen set to the post menopausal set*, you may find the complements & nature, and of course your dashing self, aren’t quite enough.
On the other hand, if you can get a progressive-bimbo into the sack, just try screaming “Bush is a Nazi;” this will work every time.
^ jezz, I’m typing worse than usual this AM, I’m gonna log off.
Merovign (19)
Interesting link.
Yeah, bore and bullet treatments are generally intended to reduce bore corrosion (operability and longevity) and fouling from bullet metal and powder residue (consistency for accuracy and longevity as well as ease of cleaning). Slickness isn’t really a power enhancement, as such. [Insert tome on internal ballistics.]
Teflon-coated bullets are illegal, here in NC. Why? Politicians thought it defeated body armor. Funny thing is, teflon reduces body-armor penetration. Huh whaa? Wellp, politicians ain’t too all-fired interested in physics. They seldom get beyond good intentions, the bill title, or the book jacket.
Ironic (20)
You’re right about the Glock analogy, here. (Plastic! OMG! Well, except for all the steel parts.) Guns undetectable by airport security devices are illegal as sin.
Good luck makin’ a useful one without steel, anyway.
^ Slickness isn’t really a power enhancement, as such. Or maybe just in that K-Y application everybody (else) is talking about, as it might enable a slight increase in stamina… Or maybe not even then.
I’m gonna go back to fantasizing about free boring.
Isn’t ketchup cruel to innocent tomatoes?
I thought the second bottle was just watery catsup.
Hog (21):
If you ever graduate from the late teen set to the post menopausal set*, you may find the complements & nature, and of course your dashing self, aren’t quite enough.
Ironic: All I said was “they will manufacture it themselves”. Just because the original ‘factory’ has shut down doesn’t mean you still can’t have fun.
If the ‘factory’ is, in fact, closed, by that age they should know their way around a stove, and they can manufacture it there. All it takes is a tablespoon of cornstarch, a few drops of olive oil (I prefer ‘extra virgin’, myself), three tablespoons of water, and a couple of drops of dishwashing liquid to help it all homogenize. Salt to taste.
Heat slowly while stirring constantly… and don’t forget to check-up on the stove once in a while. When all ingredients are blended, remove from heat immediately. Allow to cool. Sauce will thicken slightly, but don’t let that slow you down.
I swear I should charge for this shit.
Boy, it’s a good thing none of the women are reading thi…
… uhm, I gotta go.
^ You forgot “or hold the salt and add your lover’s favorite flavor — vanilla, almond, chocolate, etc.”
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Dishwashing liquid? I hope no one takes this seriously.
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…it’s Hog & Ironic…. Okay, probably no danger of that, then.
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…Women reading this? Uh-oh.