responsible people must be stopped!
Los Angeles became the largest city in the nation Wednesday to approve a ban on plastic bags at supermarket checkout lines
rly? And you’re inconveniencing people shopping because …?
…handing a major victory to clean-water advocates who sought to reduce the amount of trash clogging landfills, the region’s waterways and the ocean.
So your “concern” is that there is trash “clogging” landfills? Do you actually believe landfills ought to be free-flowing?!? That’s what they’re for: trash. They smash it down, cover it with dirt, and put in some fairly straightforward equipment that powers the houses they build on top with the methane thus produced. How “green” is that?!?
Egged on by actress Julia Louis-Dreyfus [who was apparently *not* acting with her annoying TV characters] and an array of environmental groups, the City Council voted 13 to 1 to phase out plastic bags over the next 12 months at an estimated 7,500 stores. Councilman Bernard Parks cast the lone no vote.
Bless Bernard Parks for that.
“Let’s get the message to Sacramento that it’s time to go statewide,” said Councilman Ed Reyes, who has focused on efforts to revitalize the Los Angeles River.
Council members quietly backed away from a more controversial plan to also ban use of paper grocery bags, which was first proposed by appointees of Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa. [who own shopping-bag companies]
Wednesday’s vote kicks off a four-month environmental review of the bag ban, followed by passage of an ordinance putting it into effect.
The four month review — which is apparently pointless considering that the ban will take place regardless of its outcome — also conducted by “appointees of Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa,” no doubt.
“Plastic harms our environment. It is a threat to the coastal economy. It is a danger to marine life and it is an unconscionable burden to taxpayers who have to foot the bill for cleanups year after year,” said attorney H. David Nahai, a former top executive at the Department of Water and Power.
This is the crux of their argument: plastic **Carelessly Thrown Away By Morons** makes a mess. They’re afraid of “Bag Monster” oooooooo
Do we not already have littering laws? Let’s just enforce those and leave people like me — who have never, evar allowed a plastic bag to go free range — alone!
Perhaps they might consider that the kind of dependent society they advocate at every turn actually decreases people’s sense of personal responsibility for themselves and the world around them, which leads directly to behaviors like the casual tossing of plastic bags on the streets and beaches. “Why worry — Someone Else will take care of that. Just like they take care of me.”
Employees of plastic bag manufacturers, wearing T-shirts reading “Don’t Kill My Job,” pleaded unsuccessfully for council members to change course, saying they feared they would soon be unemployed. “My family depends on my job and my benefits, too,” said Alejandro Ortega, a 10-year employee of manufacturer Crown Poly.
Putting people out of work. Killing industries.
Villaraigosa’s appointees on the five-member Board of Public Works voted last year to embrace a ban on all single-use bags, saying that paper bags lead to deforestation.
Are you freakin’ kidding me?!? You city slickers are completely unaware that paper products are made from a CROP of specifically grown trees?!? They are farmed — like potatoes and corn. They also produce all the paper you use to write your stupid, ignorant “well-meaning” White Papers. Papers — geddit?
And if ya wanna go completely eco-tard; young trees capture more CO2 and release more O2 than do mature trees. So the harvesting and replanting of this CROP produces more O2.
While employing people and creating wealth.
“Science” *pfaff*
“Facts” *yawn*
“Economics” *whuut?*
Enjoy your coliform bacteria and E. coli.
Or Destroy The Planet!!!lebenty!!! with more Washing Machine Use, Electricity Use, Eeeeevil Detergents and Water Use!!!!!!
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Toilet paper is made from trees. If they really care and are not hypocrites, I wonder if they use their left hand or right hand to wipe their arses?
‘Course the elites at City Hall have staff to kiss them clean.
Boise Cascade (which must be one of the biggest landowners/lessees in the US) is a few miles down the road from where I’m typing this. They have untold acres of cottonwoods growing everywhere from here to the coast.
They’re really quite pleasant, and it only takes 10 years of growth before they harvest them. Then they plant some more. It’s the circle of life.
Makumba matatta, yo.
Next they have to ban electricity, soap, shoes, and water.
“Let’s get the message to Sacramento that it’s time to go statewide,”
…like they already have on high unemployment and bankruptcy level debt.
It’s a complete tangent, and irrelvant to pretty much anything, but speaking of being in the bag, so to speak:
http://www.tmz.com/2012/05/23/bill-clinton-porn-stars/
That’s a pic of Slick Willy (abroad in Monaco) with a couple of fetching young ladies. The one on the right (who posted the photo on Twitter) looks particularly wholesome, and has… also just won the award for “Best Sex Scene” in “Mission Asspossible.” As for [the other one's] film credits … those include “Baby Got Boobs 8″ and “Farm Girls Gone Bad.”
I forget, but isn’t this the (nominal) husband of the current Secretary of State?
Well, at least he’s on foreign soil.
About a zillion years ago people used to take burlap bags (coffee sacks for all us hillbillies) to the store and put their groceries in them. Paper bags cost 1 to 3 pennies at some stores and it was easier to tote one big burlap bag over your shoulder than try and wrestle 4 or 5 paper bags.
So now LA is going to revert to 1950′s Eastern Kentucky methods.
Don’t tell me that Olympia hasn’t banned plastic bags yet? Bellingham, in its race to be the trendiest, greenest city on the left coast, banned them last year. I believe the merchants have until the end of this year to start complying.
Isn’t it funny that the plastic bags were supposed to be the solution to deforestation caused by paper bags? That irony is lost on envirotards. They always have to create some boogey man to panic about. If it isn’t ozone, it’s climate “change”; if it isn’t paper, it’s plastic. Same song, same orchestra, different verse.
What you might find interesting, though, is that this is a worldwide movement, promoted by environmental groups funded by the UN. People all over the planet are having their plastic bags taken away. India is causing the bag nazis a real headache, though. There are too many people for them to effectively police. The vendors realize this, and simply ignore the dictates.
The irony totally lost: Just about EVERY FUCKING THING purchased today comes in a plastic container!!!!!!!! [...And is a sonofabitch to cut open]…ALL the boxes of shit I buy from the innerpipes have bandoliers of inflated w air bags for packing material! (…a hassle to knife ever fuckin one, so it don`t fill up your garbage can…)
I`d reckon plastic grocery bags are a minority of all plastic from all other sources………
Fill up cart
Go to checkout
When they tell you they don’t supply bags, get nasty, then leave. Let them re-shelve the stock.
Nailed it ColJ! I hate the damn popcorn that blows around and sticks to everything, plastic balloons that stuff the trash can, and especially the blister packs tough as armor plate.
I guess if this no bag fad spreads, people will be going to the store wearing booster bloomers.
Merchandise turns will be higher while register receipts will be lower, thanks to the Green Weenies.
So if this catches on what are we suppose use for garbage bags? Back to paper bags in metal garbage cans?
This is a video targeted at SMART high school students takes apart the myths of recycling.
The Economics of Recycling
Fill up cart
Go to checkout
When they tell you they don’t supply bags, get nasty, then leave. Let them re-shelve the stock.
I did that at a store who said they no longer supplied bags, but I could purchase one of their reusable bags for just 1.99.
Told the guy to go screw himself and walked out.
Austin just passed a resolution that is to take effect at the end of the year.
http://www.statesman.com/news/local/city-council-moves-ahead-on-plastic-bag-ban-1697135.html
A ban would put at risk the nearly 9,000 jobs in Texas that are involved in producing, recycling and transporting the bags, Daniels said.
asshats!
It’s pretty simple really. They will save the planet at any cost, even if they have to kill you.
Hmmm. I’m thinking of the black-market possibilities of this…
I mean if you’ve got a gazillion of these things, you could carry them to the store when you shop. Even more effective: make sure you always bring bags from their competitors, never their old bags.
Orrrr–
Maybe grocery stores will go back to the old method of re-using the cardboard boxes that came in the back of the store. joe, THAT’s Kentuckian!
Not that I’m old enough to remember such things.
If you spread the bubble wrap out on the floor you can practice Flamenco dancing on it.
I’m not shitting you. Try it sometime!
Here in Denver, that’s what Vitamin Cottage does now. It basically works okay.
Wonder when they’re going to realize that applies to condoms too? After all, what is a condom if not a little plastic baggie? (I’m thinking that little paper baggies will be a poor substitute.)
But wait! They want taxpayers and insurers to pay for those, so I guess there’ll be an exemption for them, kind of like the Obamacare exemption for unions.
After all, what is a condom if not a little plastic baggie? (I’m thinking that little paper baggies will be a poor substitute.)
I have calamari salad on my keyboard now, but thanks for the laugh!
^ Sorry about the keyboard. Hope what’s left of the calamari is good. (oh, er…. check my last post over at http://www.sondrakistan.com/?comments_popup=21930 )
what is a condom if not a little plastic baggie Here by the way, is an opportunity for Rick Santorum and CA’s radical environmental left to work together.
what is a condom if not a little plastic baggie
Heh, I can’t believe The memory that brought up.
When I was an RA in the dorms, one of the residents was so proud of himself that he had the creative presence of mind to use a bread bag and a rubber band when a condom wasn’t available. Apparently he enjoyed the conquest but what about the girl?
No plastic bags? (see: Law of Unintended Consequences)
Feelgood politics, pure ‘n simple.
Yeah, let’s go back to the good old days when humans carried their stuff around in animal skins.
If I were entrepreneurial, I’d offer an assortment of chic baby-seal-fur shopping bags. The possibilities are endless.
(What? No, that’s not a purse, that’s a
man bageco-shopping bag.)I like Rickn8or’s (15) idea of taking in a wad of plastic bags with other stores’ logos on ‘em.
I was a bag/stock/carry-out boy back in high school (early ’60s), and the reliability of boxes was far superior to that of paper bags, especially when the boss made me max-out the bag loads (even more especially when something was wet).
(What? Yeah, and good condoms were sheep gut.)
Reminds me of the scene in the original Bedazzled when the Devil made the bottom fall out of an old lady’s shopping bags as she crossed the street.
Hey, Doug. I like how you think.
How about (faux) asbestos grocery bags as well?
When I take a shit in a public restroom,
I always drape the used toilet paper over the dispenser so that the next person
can use the other clean side.
I care that much.
Get ready for a resurgence of formerly-rare infectious diseases from the greasy trunk-stored cloth bags they want you to use.
Hobbyists Distraught Over Bag Ban
^ OMG! ROFL!!!!!!
good condoms were sheep gut Do I recall reading that sheep gut condoms are okay for contraception, but weak in preventing transmission of STDs?
About plastic bags in general: their advantage is sanitation. Those reusable bags, even if handled carefully are bacteria breeding grounds. Frequent washing (and air drying — snicker) is recommended.
By the way, with plastic bags gone, what are people supposed to use to pick up dog crap? Now they will have to buy plastic bag equivalents which a) costs money, and b) reintroduces the dreaded plastic bag into the environment. Little paper baggies aren’t going to work any better for dog shit than for condoms, and discarded cardboard boxes aren’t going to be so hot at all for either of those things.
[shouts] There’s a whole section in every supermarket that sells plastic bags specifically for the purpose of being thrown away. [/shouts]
How is the law worded? Can, as Claire suggests, they just sell a brand of garbage bags ultra-cheap and fill them with groceries at checkout?
Did the control freaks think to ban that?
^ Good point!!!
And nowwww for today’s coveted celebrity endorsement of Barack Obama…..
(ta-ta-ta-taaaa!!!!)
Larry Flynt: ‘President Obama Has Overperformed … Done a Marvelous Job’
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/larry-flynt-president-obama-has-overperformed-done-marvelous-job_645842.html
The first pornographic president?
(also…. Larry says that if you’re religious, it’s probably because you have an iodine deficiency from being on a low salt diet)
A friend of mine and I have been hoarding plastic grocery bags in anticipation of the ban. I use them as garbage can liners, to send lunches to work with my husband, etc. They are not “one use” bags at our house, and I know a whole lot of people who reuse them as well.
So, I am taking them with me when I go to the store. If I bring it, I can use it, right? I can share them if I want to – they are mine, after all! And when I run out, I am going to either order some from a grocery bag manufacturer or buy a box of garbage bags to bring with me to the store. Unless I WANT paper or a box, in which case I’ll ask for it.
Now I’m thinking, I should have this printed up on some plastic bags: “To hear a message from Barack Obama, open bag and insert head; secure around neck; wait 5 minutes. Please recycle!”
TRKOF @ 27 – Sandy Fluke is not going to be happy you photographed her.
What the hell is plastic made from anyway?
It’s almost like they’re trying to get back at those people.
What the hell is plastic made from anyway?
I thought you’d never ask. The bags are not made from oil, fer chrissakes, and why should we care if they were? There’s more than enough oil to go around. Forever.
Sorry, hippies, but the bags are made from that part of natural gas that refineries/power plants etc. normally burn off. You know? That flame that you see, when you drive past one of these places, contains that chemical that they make plastic bags out of. I can’t remember the chemical name right now, but I’m sure some Kisper does.
Some enterprising motherfucker figured this out one day, and is now living in the Beautiful Paradise of North Korea. Or maybe someplace else.
I’m still trying to figure out how to profit from cat poop, ’cause Lord knows; I got a lot of it.
Maybe I could put it up on Ebay?
^
So plastic bags may have a negative carbon footprint, and businesses should be given carbon credits for using them?* Someone should tell the bag banners that they are the source of global warming and are destroying the planet. Or is there to be an exemption for anti-bagging too?
Hog is a cat? Who’d a’ thought?
* Actually I didn’t know that. It means the USA could be the bag manufacturing capital of the world. Aside form sheep parts, what are condoms made of?
PVC ia made from chlorine and ethylene. Chlorine is a byproduct of several industrial chem reactions, and ethylene comes from the petroleum crackers.
Packaging is one of my favorite pet peeves. Most modern packages require a pocket tool for opening, and I have occasionally destroyed the fragile product inside while cutting through the bullet proof container. Why do concrete and flour come in leaky paper sacks, while coffee comes in metal cans? Brittle corn chips- flimsy bag. Hardened steel bolts- protective blister packs.