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Syria has started to move part of its chemical weapons arsenal out of storage facilities, according to U.S. officials…

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  1. JoeBandMember®
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 1:08 pm |

    It’s hard for anyone to tell just what the intent is. Some say to be used against “rebels” within Syria who have been blowing up Assad’s tanks lately.

    Assad has also test fired and updated several classes of missiles that could reach any location in Israel.

    I think the sh*t will hit the fan due to Syrian activities before it does in Iran.

    Prophecy?

  2. Posted July 13, 2012 at 1:22 pm |

    Jeez…just what we need right about now…..

  3. joe
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 2:12 pm |

    If they just kill off their own, what’s the problem?

    Seriously, why should we care?

    We spent lots of blood and gold in Iraq, got nothing for it. Place will be a cesspool within 2 years. Afghanistan, ditto. Pakistan, ditto.

    The world might be a better place with a few less middle eastern muslims.

  4. DougM (November is coming)
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 2:34 pm |

    Good eye, Missy.
    Looks like the Sovs Russkies want their stuff, Syria’s stuff, and Saddam’s stuff moved back to a safer location.
    I predict a series of “accidents” en route before the Islamists get their hands on any.
    (What? No, I don’t mean accident accident. I mean *wink* aaaaaaccidennnnt, and Putin will be pissed.)

  5. geezerette
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 3:07 pm |

    Oh ??? Where’s the remote I want to watch Who’s got talent?

  6. Melissa In Texas
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 4:08 pm |

    Oh my, how things have… changed.

  7. mech
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 4:41 pm |

    I thought it was the latest iteration of “Storage Wars–Syria”

    As Doug said, lots of accumulated ‘stuff’ getting moved again to whoever is willing to take responsibility– the world is getting small enough that admitting it exists is better than letting it loose in terrorist hands.

  8. dick, not quite dead white guy
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 5:38 pm |

    Syria has begun moving its Saddam’s chemical weapons stockpile out of storage, U.S. warns.
    Fixed it. Tribune owes me fifty bucks for editing services.

    (No WMD’s … hahahahahahahahahahahaha.. you fucking Dem lying treasonous idiots. Dems lied and people WILL die.)

  9. TimO
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 5:55 pm |

    ^ Yes…. I came in to say they should properly be labeled “former Iraqi chemical weapons”.

    But the MSM tells us that Saddam had no WMD’s of course….

  10. Colonel Jerry USMC
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 6:22 pm |

    Chemical weapons ain`t just a pile of shells. They have a “shelf life” and I am sure, by now, that these are way past that date! And only Allah knows where the fuck they have been and under what conditions…..

    It would be *too bad* if a bunch of Ay-Rabs got exposed; wouldn`it?

  11. Posted July 13, 2012 at 6:37 pm |

    ^^^ Sir, you are my Hero. May Allah make it “Too bad”

  12. Ironic in Denver
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 7:16 pm |

    Is it time yet for our feckless “Commander in Chief” to once again “lead from behind?”

    (…and if so, who, this time, will be in front?)

  13. Lord of the Fleas
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 7:24 pm |

    Yer right, Col. Only Allah knows the storage conditions for those munitions, ‘cuz the Syrians won’t have a clue.

    The concept of “maintenance”, and particularly “preventive maintenance”, is utterly alien to the Arab Moslem mindset. Their entire existences are governed by the notion of “In sh’Allah” – “If God wills it”. The sun will rise tomorrow – if God wills. If not, well ….

    So if these things start rupturing and killing people nearby, well, that was obviously God’s plan.

    And if the Lord helps those who help themselves, maybe He’d appreciate a little assistance with those “accidents”.

  14. Paul
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 8:08 pm |

    Dick,

    Yep same thing crossed my mind when they announced these WMD were being moved. Saddams!

    Now we do know Saddam’s ex-buddies did use some chemical weapons on Kurds, we do know the terrorist in Iraq did TRY to use chemical weapons on our GIs, we do know they found 500 TONS of uranium ore in Iraq, and we do also know alot of stuff was shipped to Syria just before Iraq went belly up.

    But nah…. Bush was wrong and everything that has gone wrong since then is his fault (just ask Obama!)

  15. Ironic in Denver
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 8:44 pm |

    ^ the fault lay in failing to use air power to close all of Iraq’s borders as soon as hostilities commenced. This would have avoided a variety of severe and costly problems, some of which have contributed to the long-term failure of the Iraq war & “reconstruction.”

    At the time I was horrified and incredulous. The results were predictable and likely unavoidable.

  16. JoeBandMember®
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 8:45 pm |

    You folks are correct. These are the WMD the commie media would never admit Saddam ever had, although there was much intel at the time showing where this crap came from.

    Move that stuff around enough, with enough years past expiration of its containers, let alone the chems themselves, and some of it will get loose just in handling.

    Maybe they will self-exterminate, after all…

  17. Posted July 13, 2012 at 9:01 pm |

    Now where the hell are my gaddamm cluster bombs, right when I needed them?

    DO YOU HEAR ME SSGT? NOW FIX THIS, AND DON’T COME BACK HERE UNTIL YOU DO!

    Sorry, where was I? Oh yeah, the Syrians.

    Not to disagree with the Colonel Jerry, SIR!, but in the case of binary nerve-agents, the ‘shelf life’ could be indefinite, SIR!

    I was down in Yemen this one time (I’m not shitting you), and we were taking a little ‘tour’ around this whole-shitload-of-a-fucking country, SIR! This was all hosted by in-laws/hippies who happened to work for the State Department at the time.

    So we came to this little town by the Red Sea, and we just had to go see this 500-year-old Turkish fort that had been around there for about 500 years, I guess.

    After about 500 years, the Turks were finally kicked out of Yemen by the Brits, back in 1917, during WWI.

    The fort itself was actually kinda fascinating, although I almost fainted when I saw the place where they kept their prisoners, SIR! It wasn’t good.

    So we continue our little tour and come to the ‘armory’, which had this big stack of bags of powder in it. There must have been a ton or more. This was all from 1917, so it was 70+ years old.

    Upon inspecting the contents of one of said bags, I couldn’t help but notice that it looked suspiciously like gunpowder, SIR!

    I took a little pinch out to the courtyard of aforementioned fort where I applied my Bic lighter to it.

    HOLY SHIT!!! I’m lucky I still have my eyebrows, SIR!

    It also made an instant cloud of smoke about as big as a fucking house, SIR! I even have that one on tape somewhere.

    There was also a bunch of little neighborhood kids playing around there, who saw the whole thing, and they were excitedly jibbering in Arabic, or something, asking each other if they had a lighter. I guess none of them did, so they all went scampering back into the village to get one.

    Right about this time, Carl (one of the hosts) said, “Uhm, I think we should probably leave now” (because if the little shits blew themselves up, it would be OUR fault, SIR!)

    So we skeddalled.

  18. Ironic in Denver
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 9:13 pm |

    ^ I notice a trend here.

    Hog + Bic lighter = miscellaneous excitement

    cat’s flaming ass, turkish fort, who knows what else

    I would be MUCH obliged if Hog would go to D.C., and I would be delighted to supply him with a case of Bic lighters if he did.

    (I also wonder what might transpire if he were parachuted into the pirate part of Somalia with another case of them.)

  19. Ironic in Denver
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 9:18 pm |

    U.S. State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland, travelling with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in Phnom Penh, said: ‘We repeatedly made it clear that the Syrian government has a responsibility to safeguard its stockpiles of chemical weapons.’

    She added that ‘the international community will hold accountable any Syrian officials who fail to meet that obligation’.

    ….and do what? Debate passing a resolution someone will veto? Give them a good stiff lecture from afar?

    Why not drop some really big ordinance on the sites and be done with it?

  20. Colonel Jerry USMC
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 9:38 pm |

    Hog is right about binary nerve agents, but I imagine there is plenty of other stuff in the mix.

    Ironic in Denver. The western *border* of Iraq is a fiction! It is hundreds of miles of sand and rock, damn little water and ancient trails of camel tribes going back a zillion years…… Bombing sand dunes just moves the sand around and exposes scorpions to their first airborne experience!

  21. Buzz
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 9:38 pm |

    Ironic, I’m thinking no punishment could be worse than Hillary giving the offender a naked lap dance.

  22. MikeG
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 10:13 pm |

    Joe,

    Prophesy, indeed. There are several places in the Bible that predict the destruction of Damascus. Mentioning that it ceases to be a city, but a pile of ashes. Here in the evening, but gone by morning. Significant since it is at least 2800 years old, and never been destroyed.

    Pay attention, kids.

  23. LLoyd
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 11:29 pm |

    Sometime soon after the monkeey eared one is gone Someone is going to breaking out a can of…

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  24. idahohunter
    Posted July 14, 2012 at 5:15 am |

    Unpossible. They do not exist. And in five years a U. N. investigation will prove it.

  25. geezerette
    Posted July 14, 2012 at 7:21 am |

    Obama leads from behind by turning his back and saying Forward>>> But who cares he’s the first Black President and is going to pay for my stuff with his stash so I’ll vote for him again. I don’t even have to be a citizen. I don’t even have to be alive — I think I am tho– for now– who cares about all the other stuff– don’t bother me none.

  26. JoeBandMember&#174
    Posted July 14, 2012 at 8:46 am |

    Right on, MikeG. Although no man knows the day or the hour for that, either.

    Perhaps the question of the day should be:

    “Will November get here soon enough?”

    or

    “Will November get here?”

  27. JoeBandMember®
    Posted July 14, 2012 at 8:47 am |

    There must be hidden WMDs under my semicolon key….

  28. Posted July 14, 2012 at 9:00 am |

    dick, not quite dead white guy trumped me. er, read my mind.

  29. Cheesy
    Posted July 14, 2012 at 12:42 pm |

    The evidence of WMD the Dems were cackling about Bush not producing?

  30. Ironic in Denver
    Posted July 14, 2012 at 1:01 pm |

    ColJ (20): Sir, I know what western Iraq* is like, and I also know that I am holding forth on an area (no pun intended) in which, unlike you, I have zero expertise. However, I hope you will bear with me, as I hold forth, unencumbered as I am by facts. Perhaps, also, if you would care to explain more I would learn something (always that chance).

    It is my view (as I said, unencumbered by facts) that early in the engagement that the U.S. could have used dedicated satellites, combined with airborne tactical assets, to spot the movement of anything near the border that was bigger than a donkey cart. Then a combination of fast-movers & choppers could have been used to simply blow whatever it was up. It’s not as though anyone was going to contest our control of the skies. Even if we didn’t get everything, we could have gotten a lot, including those three tractor trailers of cash** and who knows what else Saddam sent to Syria. (Nor did we need intel on what it was: if it’s moving shoot it till it stops.)

    We wouldn’t have had to speculatively bomb wasteland, sand dunes & rocks. (though I do like your image of airborne scorpions) Heat signatures would have sufficed?

    * Not only a enormous wasteland, but an artificial concept I suppose must have been invented in the last hundred (post Ottoman) years by European powers. I’d guess there’s little sense of national identity or much else, and that the mentality of both the people and donkeys that live there is much what it’s been for the last however many thousand years. Smuggling is likely the most significant economic activity, and is likely an art form. So what? If it appears on FLIR, zap its rear. Who cares if it’s contraband (by whose definition, anyway?) or WMD materials? Did anyone ask or care who or what was in the Twin Towers on 9/11?

    Once occupation commenced, I’d make the same arguments about the Iraq/Iran border, which offers at least equal challenges, and through which most of the IED material and expertise flowed which plagued us in Iraq is the subsequent years.

    ** Why blow up the cash? Well, why the hell not? It sure would have denied someone an asset, wouldn’t it? Besides, pilots always need more target practice.

  31. Posted July 14, 2012 at 1:13 pm |

    ^^ IiD….. It’s R.O.E. as dictated, and the fact that We, our Military, are not Savages as are our Opponents.

    Racking that supply line would have been nifty and gratifying, until the cost in Civilian lives was counted.

    We simply are not like that.

  32. PeggyU
    Posted July 14, 2012 at 1:42 pm |

    idahohunter – Yep. Sounds about right.

  33. Ironic in Denver
    Posted July 14, 2012 at 3:38 pm |

    Wollf (31): I hear you. However, a look at the massive scale of civilian casualties in WWII, the last war we actually won, is highly instructive. If we are no longer like that, I submit that we can no longer win; and if we can no longer win, then the long term lost of life (not to mention civilization and liberty) will be far, far greater.

    I would also submit that after we blew up the first half dozen or so trucks heading for the border, the rest of them would likely turn around and find somewhere else to go (inside Iraq), so massive casualties is probably a phantom menace. Also…. I’d submit that a lot of the people driving those trucks were not so innocent in the first place. Do you really care what happens to a guy driving a truck load of mustard gas munitions?

  34. Ironic in Denver
    Posted July 14, 2012 at 3:41 pm |

    ^ As a corollary, to the above, I’d say that if we had employed the current R.O.E. in WWII, there would currently be no western civilization; and the small surviving (slave) population of the world would all be speaking either German or Japanese while they begged for mercy that was unlikely to be forthcoming.

  35. Posted July 14, 2012 at 6:12 pm |

    Hey, I am not admonishing you by any means…. And WWII, yup, I agree. If I were King, I would have turned most of the Middle East to glass years ago……. BUT, as I expressed, We don’t do that. We are the “Good” guys………

  36. Ironic in Denver
    Posted July 14, 2012 at 6:47 pm |

    ^ yep. And as far as I can tell, the good die young.

    (and no quarrel with you, either, Wollf, guess I’m just sounding off; I am so sick of being on the loosing side of every fucking conflict)

  37. icemaned13
    Posted July 15, 2012 at 12:00 pm |

    Hitting those trucks would only cost innocent Russian lives-they are our friends. Perhaps another “harshly worded” letter is chiefly needed. And this time we use exclamation points!

  38. Ironic in Denver
    Posted July 15, 2012 at 3:38 pm |

    ^ And this time we use exclamation points!

    Hey, we could employ exclamation points to ratchet up the pressure on Iran. That should definitely make the sanctions work.

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