pass it so you can find out what’s in it!

The “for me but not for thee” crowd is in full bay.

They freaked out about this statement decrying “blood on their hands” and banners reading “N.R.A. Killing Our Kids.” for even mentioning such an idea.

“The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun,”

Then they whip around and…

“We must keep our schools safe by utilizing all of the law enforcement tools at our disposal.” … “Is it not part of the national defense to make sure that your children are safe?” …

The Save Our Schools Act would leave it to governors to decide whether to call out the National Guard and how to use troops around schools.


The above stolen homaged from OregonMuse because it made me larff aloud — and who made some points worth reading.


  1. DougM (Progophobe)
    Posted December 24, 2012 at 8:15 am |

    Meanwhile, at NBC, firearms laws don’t apply to uuuuusss.

  2. The_Grey_Man
    Posted December 24, 2012 at 8:41 am |

    I post this again.

    Everyone here needs to read this, and pass it along everywhere you can:

    We live in Nazi Germany 1935.

    Or worse.

  3. Freddie Sykes
    Posted December 24, 2012 at 9:13 am |

    Gregory Mocks LaPierre for Proposing Armed Guards, but Sends Kids to High-Security School

    The Gregory children go to school with the children of President Barack Obama, according to the Washington Post. That school is the co-ed Quaker school Sidwell Friends.

    According to a scan of the school’s online faculty-staff directory, Sidwell has a security department made up of at least 11 people. Many of those are police officers, who are presumably armed.

    Moreover, with the Obama kids in attendance, there is a secret service presence at the institution, as well.

    It’s safe to say the school where Gregory sends his kids is a high-security school. It’s just odd he’d want it for his kids, but wouldn’t be more open to it for others.

  4. Colonel Jerry USMC
    Posted December 24, 2012 at 9:15 am |

    Most cops are lousy shots!

  5. Fat Baxter
    Posted December 24, 2012 at 9:15 am |

    I do NOT want the National Guard at our schools. Didn’t they learn anything about deploying troops to quell riots in the ’60s?

    What the authorities usually deploy in riots are infantry. Infantry are conditioned through training to shoot back in the face of a threat. Police are trained just the opposite: to hold their fire until an unambiguous deadly threat presents itself. That’s a big part of what happened at Kent State; the troops, upon (supposedly) hearing a gunshot, reflexively returned fire.

    And who’s gonna pay for these deployments? If they’re used under State status (the only way they can act as law enforcement and avoid Posse Comitatus) the states pick up the tab — another unanticipated bill. If they’re federalized so that the Feds pick up the bill, the states avoid that bill, but Posse Comitatus kicks in, as it applies only to federal forces.

    Also, these Guardsmen have day jobs. How long are their employers gonna hold open their jobs? The employers have been holding open the Guardsmens’ jobs all through the Iraqi and Afghanistan deployments, and now this too? What’s the long-term solution?

  6. rickn8or
    Posted December 24, 2012 at 9:36 am |

    Bat Faxter, thanks for clearing up my question about posse comitatus.

    Nobody seems to want the most logical solution: allow teachers, etc. with CCWs to carry on campus.
    (Stealing from my FB post)

    Why does it have to be a cop? (A patrolman) If a cop rolls up on an active shooter scene at a school, does he know the layout of the building? Entries and Exits? Who’s supposed to be there and who isn’t?

    For years, all the time and energies concentrating on students who were drawing pictures of guns, or with a deadly paring knife in their lunchbox. (See any number of Zero Tolerance stories in the press.) Did it never occur to anyone that threats might come from outside the school?

    How about someone that’s there every day, a teacher or administrator or janitor? The only requirements are that they be on staff, a volunteer and have a CCW. Cost to the school? Zero.

    We guard our banks and our movie theaters with guns, why can’t we guard our children with them?

    It doesn’t have to be _every_ teacher and they don’t have to be armed with a battle rifle or an RPG; one or two per school will do. It’ll be up to the next Evildoer through the door to figure out who’s going to return fire and who isn’t, and they’ll have to guess right before turning their back.

    We turn over our children, our most precious possession, week in and week out, and charge the schools with their education and their safety, yet refuse to give them the tools to cope with an external threat; pepper spray, a tazer, or a firearm.

    No, this plan isn’t perfect; others can “what-if” it to death, but can the worst “what-if” they can come up with more horrific than a teacher charging an armed gunman barehanded? (And bless those teachers who did at Sandy Hook!)

    Disarming otherwise law-abiding citizens and banning scary-looking weapons will not prevent the another Sandy Hook. No engineer would would attempt such an outside-in approach to such a problem; there are over 80 million gun owners and at least 250 million guns in America. A tiny fraction are used in crime. An equally tiny even tinier fraction could be used in an inside-out approach to making schools safer.

    But I doubt the teacher’s unions would hold still for this.

  7. geezerette
    Posted December 24, 2012 at 9:49 am |

    One trained person with a concealed weapon and the poor students who would be traumatized by seeing a weapon wouldn’t have to know who it is —
    I had to turn the news off today— it made me sick– here it is Christmas Eve and all they can talk about is their guns agenda and the killing. NOTHING is going to be done about it today or ever for that matter– give it a rest celebrate Christ’s birthday and have some respect for the families that lost their loved ones. You are doing exactly what he/they want. Stir things up with the masses and walk away.

  8. geezerette
    Posted December 24, 2012 at 9:54 am |

    PS that picture??? I’ve been wondering about that coming up.

  9. rickn8or
    Posted December 24, 2012 at 10:36 am |

    geezerette, dealing with the press and the gun-banners is like something that I finally figured out about conversing with my ex: “We’re exchanging words, but only one of us is interested in communicating.”

  10. Thomas M.
    Posted December 24, 2012 at 10:45 am |

    Whoever worked that photo pointing out the guns did a great job, but they missed the arsenal. The building on the left is the J. Edgar Hoover Building, the FBI HQ.

  11. Posted December 24, 2012 at 10:52 am |

    As someone else pointed out – If we can’t trust teachers with an armed weapon, then whyinthesamhell are we trusting them with OUR KIDS???????

  12. rickn8or
    Posted December 24, 2012 at 10:56 am |

    Dave, sorta like the logic that turned the Armed Pilots program to hash: “Yeah, we can trust you with a 350,000# airplane full of people and fuel, but we can’t trust you with a 2# pistol.”

  13. JoeBandMember™
    Posted December 24, 2012 at 11:02 am |

    Gun and ammo sales are an indication of how the country feels about all this.

  14. Posted December 24, 2012 at 11:05 am |

    Fuck the NEA.

    Government employees who try to unionize need to be fired, including cops and firemen.

    Rickn8or: Utah already allows teachers to CCW, and most schools have a few who do. So far no blood an the classroom floors, and no accidental discharges.

    Those ADs that pilots had were caused by government rules that mandated the pilots handle the gun and put it in a locked box while not flying. Stupid.

    The way to avoid ADs is to “Stop touching it!”

  15. rickn8or
    Posted December 24, 2012 at 11:25 am |

    Nothing at all to disagree with there Kristophr.

    Thanks for the expansion and illustration of my points.

    Re: ADs: Yah, that’s the way I was trained. When CCW-ing, after you leave the house, you treat your pistol like your penis: “Stop touching it!”

  16. accipiter NW
    Posted December 24, 2012 at 11:51 am |

    I keep seeing this as schools having become an extension of the womb, with shoot ‘em up sociopaths as members of a planned parenthood militia performing retro-active abortions. The MFM is doing all it can to present the narrative and keep it in the news cycle which may not end for a few weeks when they’ll start gushing over Barack’s 2nd coming.

  17. Posted December 24, 2012 at 1:23 pm |

    Q: “Why did you shoot that suspect 27 times?”

    A: “Uh, I ran out of bullets?”

  18. Fat Baxter
    Posted December 24, 2012 at 2:06 pm |

    rickn8or @ 12: “Yeah, we can trust you with a 350,000# airplane full of people and fuel, but we can’t trust you with a 2# pistol.”

    Yep. I used to handle nuclear weapons, but now the libs whip themselves into a lather if I want to carry a snub-nose .38.

  19. rickn8or
    Posted December 24, 2012 at 2:53 pm |

    Fat, try carrying that .38 aboard a military installation to exercise your retirement benefits, you know base exchange, etc.

    The way Security reacts, you might as well HAVE a nuke.

    I didn’t handle nukes, just rode around in an airplane that carried them. Trusted me with crypto keylists, etc. but not a firearm, even on active duty.

  20. dick, not quite dead white guy
    Posted December 24, 2012 at 4:00 pm |

    We guard banks and every courthouse and government building in the country, city, county, state and federal with armed guards.
    Is any of that more valuable than our children?
    The progs are guilty of gross negligence, lying and gross stupidity.
    Prosecution rests.

  21. ZZMike
    Posted December 25, 2012 at 12:34 am |

    Don’t forget Rosie O’Donnell, fearless gun-control advocate, who had armed bodyguards nearby.

    Not too many banks here in Orange County, CA, have armed guards. A few B of A branches. Other banks occasionally get robbed.

    Maybe one solution is to build schools with a defense perimeter. (Some L.A. schools have metal detectors at entry/exit points.) This would alsoo give kids the idea that school is a serious place, not a playground/baby-sitting thing. While we’re at it, run schools like a military organization. Good for discipline.

  22. Spin
    Posted December 25, 2012 at 1:19 am |

    Because of the Sky Marshal Program there has been no highjacks or massacres on any US flights since 2001.

    A School Marshal Program comprised of local talent, logically, would have the same degree of success.