so there’s this and that

heap big whooooops

…“The Affiliated Police Association is putting The Journal News on notice that we will hold them accountable for any incident where any of our members are involved in an incident where a person, criminal or ex-con presents themselves at the residence of one of our members as a result of their name being made public by The Journal News,” Robert Buckley, vice president of the organization, said…

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…“The thing that got me when I first looked at it was I looked at a street and I said, ‘Oh my god, that guy’s dead.’ Twenty-five percent of that information, which is public information, is incorrect on that website. So if you think that somebody lives in a house, they don’t necessarily live in that house anymore,”…


  1. staghounds
    Posted January 12, 2013 at 7:55 pm |

    Three quarters right is pretty good for professional journalists.

    And I have to be a little contrary ere, In places where a permit goes by favour- as it does in New York- who has them SHOULD be public record.

  2. Posted January 12, 2013 at 8:05 pm |

    I’m trying to understand what you mean, but I still don’t understand what you mean.

    Could you remove the tampon and put it into words that guys could understand?

    Just a thought…

  3. Posted January 12, 2013 at 8:11 pm |


  4. Posted January 12, 2013 at 8:16 pm |

    I am so dead. Would somebody mind feeding my cats? I am so dead.

  5. Posted January 12, 2013 at 9:57 pm |

    ^ Was it the salmon mousse?

  6. dick, not quite dead white guy
    Posted January 12, 2013 at 10:27 pm |

    There ya go New York. Just keep beating yourself in the head with that hammer. Harder…that’s better. It will feel good if you ever stop.
    Given the performance of places like New York and Illinois, I’m buying some hammer stock. [More people killed with hammers than assault rifles...]
    Nevermind. They’ll ban hammers next.

  7. geezerette
    Posted January 12, 2013 at 10:39 pm |

    I wonder if the journalists were graduates of Ms Carters class?

  8. JoeBandMember™
    Posted January 12, 2013 at 10:45 pm |

    That f44king so-called newspaper, and all those who support what they did by publishing the names, make my blood boil.

    Damn them all to Hell.

  9. Posted January 12, 2013 at 10:52 pm |

    I was killed by shoooze …

  10. Caged Insanity
    Posted January 12, 2013 at 11:12 pm |

    Did you notice the part where the Affiliated Police Association vowed to hold responsible anyone who shows up at the residence of anyone on that list the newspaper printed?

    Yeah, that’s right, they didn’t. They said they’ll only do that for their members.

    Once again, the cops are only interested in themselves.

    Tax payer funded street mob.

  11. Steve Skubinna
    Posted January 13, 2013 at 2:45 am |

    Good to see the cops have the right priorities.

    To serve and protect – our dues paying union members.

  12. Murphy(AZ)
    Posted January 13, 2013 at 3:29 am |

    I would consider it useful work if someone were to compare the complete and entire list of gun owners that was released to the Journal News with the information which was eventually published.

    Were ALL the names published, or was there, perhaps, some “editing for length and/or content” by maybe “overlooking” the names of, say… local anti-gun politicians who have gun carry permits (it ain’t just Republicans and Conservatives, folks…) or registered Democrats… or known members of Left-wing or “progressive” organizations.

    What? Am I saying that a respectable organ of the Fifth Estate would tweak a story to fit a predetermined outcome?

    D*mn-betcha, Little Missy!

  13. staghounds
    Posted January 13, 2013 at 6:21 am |

    Simple words.

    In New York, to ge a pistol permit, you ave to show a “good reason”, and the local Police Department has to sign off.

    That means a permit is discretionary- oops, big word- that to get a permit, you have to be someone the local police want to have a permit.

    So who you are, whether the local authorities like you, makes a difference. Political and other powerful people get permits, others don’t.

    Jail guards get permits, carpenters don’t.

    Retired judges get permits, retired schoolteachers don’t.

    “In” politicians get permits, “out” politicians don’t.

    Since this is a list of people who are basically being granted a favour by government, a special benefit not open to all, then we who don’t get the favour ought to know who’s on the list.

  14. Jess
    Posted January 13, 2013 at 6:23 am |

    If my name was on that list, I think I could find a doctor that supported my terrible mental state, due to lack of sleep and constant worry, was directly attributed to emotional trauma. After that, I’d only have to shop for a really good personal injury attorney and wait for the money.

  15. Colonel Jerry USMC
    Posted January 13, 2013 at 8:49 am |

    KO, scientists cain`t agree on Quantum Theory. Soooo, spose sum guy goes to an address of a police member, he opens the door and dood ventilates him——HOWEVER, teh shooter never read this list published in the rag, that this policeman used to threaten peeps?

    You got *Shrodinger`s Cat*, right? (…Entropy ain`t deterministic…)

    Does this help, HOG?

  16. DougM (Progophobe)
    Posted January 13, 2013 at 9:21 am |

    Free speech is a deadly weapon.
    A free society expects it to be used responsibly.

  17. Claire: rebellious pink pig with car keys - and a *cause*
    Posted January 13, 2013 at 9:47 am |

    Murphy(AZ) — 10++++++++++++++++++++!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Staghounds — valid point. As Alinsky said, using his Rules ain’t never pretty. But in an Alinsky world, it’s a necessary way to fight back.

  18. Posted January 13, 2013 at 12:05 pm |

    ^ You got *Shrodinger`s Cat*, right?

    I refuse to become involved in any discussion about Schrodinger’s cat. It’s a complete waste of time. I mean, you could go on and on for hours about it and never reach a conclusion. The cat is either dead or it’s not dead. Who gives a shit?

    One time, I had this cat who loved to go into boxes. Actually, I still have him.

    I put him in this box one time and… dammit! I already said I REFUSE to talk about cats, and boxes, and stuff.

  19. Posted January 13, 2013 at 12:46 pm |

    ^^ Yeah Hog, I tried to replicate Pavlov’s experiment with my cat one time….. Didn’t work fer shit, just ignored me till he had had enough, stole the bell and ran off with it, buried it in his litter.

    Can’t do Shroedinger with a dog, our chihuahua just yips the whole time so we know he’s alive, and Mongo, the 190# Saint just eats the refrigerator box.

    I have no future as a scientist.

  20. Posted January 13, 2013 at 3:40 pm |

    Wolff: At last count, Pavlov worked with dogs, so it might not be advisable to try and duplicate his experiments, using cats. It’s just a thought. Juuuuust a starting point.

    It would be like trying to drive a rear-engined car like you would a front-engined car. Not the perfect analogy, perhaps, but useful enough. A rear-engined car will kill you if you give it half-a-chance.

  21. Posted January 13, 2013 at 3:46 pm |

    My favorite sentence of all time: “That’s the fastest I’ve ever been in a car in my whole life! Could I get out now? I have to go pee.”

  22. Merovign
    Posted January 13, 2013 at 5:02 pm |

    MFM delenda est.

  23. Posted January 13, 2013 at 9:47 pm |

    ^^^ Wow!! Well than I guess this Honey’s been told. I’ll save you the trouble of trying to figger out anything I say ever.

    Aw shucks, calm down, Honey. Nobody’s telling nobody nothing. It’s called “joking around”. I take full responsibility. I’m still not sure what the phrase, “I take full responsibility” really means, or what it entails, but I take full responsibility because I heard it on TV. I think it was some sports guy.

    Now give me a kiss! One of them big ‘ole wet ones where you start to… uh, is this thing still on? Never mind.

  24. geezerette
    Posted January 14, 2013 at 8:52 am |

    Thanks Hog– figgered that out after awhile– always feel like an intruder on here—I know my comments are a bit screwy. I was a nurse not a writer. We had to learn to write in code and on one line. It was texting b/4 texting was popular. I had read or seen all that on the news and had commented on it a few days b/4 that’s all I meant– I figgered not everyone is like me and reads everyone’s comments– I better skip the big kiss but I’ll give you a big HUG!! Arms are for Hugs and Hugs are for Hogs. Another screwy one I just can’t help it—–

  25. Posted January 14, 2013 at 1:03 pm |

    ^ geezerette: You’re more than welcome, and I have no idea why you would “always feel like an intruder on here”. I have no ‘official’ standing here. I’m only here because I’ve been threatened not to be here. I thought everybody was!

    It was scary.

    *not, not be here?* I get confused… I make use of the ellipsis. That three-dot thingy that we all know and love. I realize that there’s something wrong with me. I’ve never argued about that. The ellipsis is like a pause for breath in the middle of a sentence, or it can also be like leaning over, cocking a cheek, and lettin’ one rip! In which case, you’d better be holdin’ that last breath.