today’s KisPtips audience participation

honesty is the best policy


  1. Caged Insanity
    Posted January 16, 2013 at 11:47 am |


  2. Joe
    Posted January 16, 2013 at 11:53 am |

    The assistant quack that interviews you before you see the main quack at the local VA started asking shit like this more than a year ago. Along with ten different variations of ‘have you ever considered suicide or had other depressing thoughts?”

    Most of the patients I talked to considered it highly advisable to answer NO. Conspiracy theorists are highly over represented in VA patient ranks.

  3. SondraK, Queen of my domain
    Posted January 16, 2013 at 12:09 pm |

    They’ve turned me into a liar……..I hate them for that. Too.

  4. mech
    Posted January 16, 2013 at 12:14 pm |

    That doesn’t apply to their practicing (when do they finally become proficient) medicine on me.

    Well, unless I came in with a gunshot wound, I’ll give them a pass.

    And i wouldn’t have seat belts on firearms either. If I had any.

  5. DougM (Progophobe)
    Posted January 16, 2013 at 12:20 pm |

    C. NYFB (none of your f’n business)

    The AMA had a standard form that asked that.
    I was at an emergency room and left it blank. The receptionist said I had to fill out all the items. I asked her if that meant they would refuse to treat me, and would she put that in writing, please. I got treated.
    At my own doc’s office, I apologized to the examining-room nurse once, ‘caue I forgot to leave my piece in the car. She said, “Oh, no problem. It happens all the time. Just set it over there while you get weighed.”

  6. DougM (Progophobe)
    Posted January 16, 2013 at 12:35 pm |

    Oh, and the seat-belt-use question?
    Are you now, or have you ever been, a lawbreaker?
    Lessee, Fifth Amendment, Fifth Amendment …

  7. DougM (Progophobe)
    Posted January 16, 2013 at 12:36 pm |

    The picture cuts off a later question:
    Have you stopped beating your wife? Yes No

  8. Posted January 16, 2013 at 12:56 pm |

    My CCL instructor (who was also an FDLE agent) told us “unless you’re dealing with a LEO, never be truthful. That’s why its called concealed.”

  9. Posted January 16, 2013 at 1:15 pm |

    My CHL instructor (a LEO himself) says there is no law on the books that makes lying to a Doctor a crime.

  10. SondraK, Queen of my domain
    Posted January 16, 2013 at 1:19 pm |

    ^ Yet.

  11. Posted January 16, 2013 at 2:27 pm |

    I had a GP’s assistaqnt hand me a form with a similar question on it at an OHSU clinic.

    I asked to speak to the doctor ( resident in training, like all of them ), and asked him if he had taken Medical Ethics.

    He said yes.

    I asked him if he knew what a “Boundary Violation” was. He said yes.

    I then pointed to the relevent question, and asked if OHSU considered such boundary violations standard practice, and did I need to write a letter to the State of Oregon medical practices board?

    He said he would talk to his supervising teaching pkysician, and asked me to leave that part of the form blank.

    A got a call from his supervisor later that week, telling me that the CDC boilerplate had been permanently purged from their admittance forms, and apologized for the trouble.

    Don’t just lie. Raise holy hell when you see crap like this.

  12. mojo
    Posted January 16, 2013 at 2:53 pm |

    Doug: I used “NOYFB” and made the nurse write it down.

  13. SondraK, Queen of my domain
    Posted January 16, 2013 at 3:11 pm |

    A very long time and good friend of JRs came to him last night and apologized and acknowledged what a mistake he’d made voting for Obama. JR asked him what it was specifically that brought on his genuine and sincere regret and he said it was THIS. The gun stuff.

    I have to admit I never would have dreamed that this friend would have voted for him but he did and now he acknowledged that we were right. So very very right.

  14. MIkeG
    Posted January 16, 2013 at 3:30 pm |

    Why would I need a seatbelt at home?

  15. Merovign
    Posted January 16, 2013 at 4:17 pm |

    Yes, the left love to apologize for the damage after it’s too late. But they always seem to change their mind before the next election.

    See: The MFM

  16. DougM (Progophobe)
    Posted January 16, 2013 at 6:42 pm |

    Firearms at home?
    No. It’s here with me in my holster.

    Oh, and it’s “Firearms” not “Fire Arms.”

  17. JoeBandMember™
    Posted January 16, 2013 at 7:00 pm |

    We will now find out just exactly what this nation is made of.

    The fraudulent election didn’t mean shit because we have no control over the cowardice of our reps, senators, and judges who stood by with their thumbs in their butts while all of this went down.

    This one is up to the people.

    Let’s roll.

  18. geezerette
    Posted January 16, 2013 at 7:11 pm |

    #17 Truer words were never spoken– We shall see. I think we all know. Nothing has happened to show us anything different.

  19. MikeG
    Posted January 16, 2013 at 8:11 pm |

    I was at the clinic today. Doctor razzed me about gaining weight. Next time I leave the .45 at home. That will shed a couple pounds right there.

  20. dick, not quite dead white guy
    Posted January 16, 2013 at 8:24 pm |

    saw that and others along the same line when I entered Medicare 4 years ago, and Doc said it was a requirement to answer all the questions to get a ‘free’[spit] physical.
    1. The Medicare physical was a joke. There was no physical. Doc read the form questions and recorded my replies. He never touched me or did any tests. I refused to answer any of those questions at the end of the forms.
    2. Since the first encounter, I have refused to take Medicare physicals and simply check in with ‘shortness of breath’ and Doc does the stuff needed for a physical.
    3. Medicare isn’t free; I paid for mine since 1965.
    4. Well, that’s another ‘enemies’ list I’m on.

  21. Claire: rebellious pink pig with car keys - and a *cause*
    Posted January 16, 2013 at 10:09 pm |

    “Gee, Doc. Do you think that’s what is causing this headache/tummyache/what-have-you?”

  22. Lucius Severus Pertinax
    Posted January 17, 2013 at 2:23 am |

    The way I have seen it for many years:

    When anyone (including a LEO) asks you a question and

    A) you owe them no loyalty


    B) they are trying or apparently may try to complicate your life in some way you don’t want it complicated

    telling the truth is entirely at one’s discretion.

  23. Posted January 17, 2013 at 4:25 am |

    Slightly relevant, definitely amusing:

    “George P. Burdell was a man born of a simple mistake. In 1927, someone in the admissions office at Georgia Tech accidentally sent student Ed Smith two registration forms instead of one. Sensing an opportunity for mischief, Smith filled out one form for himself and the other for George P. Burdell—a student he completely made up. When Smith arrived at school, he kept the ruse going by enrolling Burdell in all of his classes and even turning in assignments under his name. In fact, Smith did so much work on behalf of his imaginary friend that Burdell eventually graduated.

    When other students found out about the hoax, they helped keep Burdell’s story going. According to his resume, Burdell flew 12 missions over Europe during World War II and served on MAD magazine’s Board of Directors from 1969 to 1981. In 2001, when Burdell was supposedly 90 years old, he nearly became Time magazine’s Person of the Year after garnering 57 percent of online votes. Today, Burdell is one of Georgia Tech’s most celebrated alums. He even has a page on Facebook, where he keeps in touch with almost 5,000 “friends.”

  24. Posted January 17, 2013 at 4:28 am |

    Anyone remember in the early 70′s when people went batshit because the census bureau wanted to find out how many flush toilets people had? How quaint.

  25. The Digital Hairshirt
    Posted January 17, 2013 at 5:57 am |

    This is coming. See that it doesn’t.

  26. ZZMike
    Posted January 17, 2013 at 11:27 pm |

    “Fire Arms” is supposed to be one word: “Firearms”.

    For some inexplicable reason, doctors aren’t covered by “confidentiality” laws – as are lawyers, Catholic priests, and a few other groups (psychiatrists, maybe).