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Rule of Law :: Pants Onna Ground

Ferguson protest leaders released a list of “Rules of Engagement” for protests that they expect will arise when the Grand Jury releases its decision on Darren Wilson.

“Expect” :: “Will Create” Half of one :: Six dozen of another

So they expect to engage? How nice of them to let others know how they intend to rule themselves.

wha? These are rules they demand others follow?

3. Police will give protesters 48 hour advance notice before grand jury decision is announced.

7. Police will wear only the attire minimally required for their safety…

8. Crowd control equipment such as armored vehicles, rubber bullets, rifles and tear gas will not be used.

14. Strategically, police commanders will allow protests to take and occupy larger and more disruptive spaces than would normally be tolerated and will allow occupation of those spaces for longer periods of time than would normally be tolerated.

15. Police will be instructed to be tolerant of more minor lawbreaking [such as throwing water bottles] when deciding whether to escalate the use of force.

17. Excessive force and other forms of police misconduct will not be tolerated.

Here’s the whole Demand-a-Palooza [pdf].

My only question would be, “Or what?”

29 Comments!

  1. SondraK, Queen of SondraKistan
    Posted November 6, 2014 at 6:37 pm |

    “or what” indeed.

    I hope this is being ignored as it should be. And these sociopaths better be held accountable for their behavior should they act like sociopaths……………

  2. geezerette
    Posted November 6, 2014 at 6:55 pm |

    It sounds like the police who are protecting the people and the city have more don’ts than the innocent protesters.

  3. Caged Insanity
    Posted November 6, 2014 at 6:56 pm |

    Honestly, the Police should just be given full on “by any means necessary” permission. Mow the fuckers down with real bullets and don’t call the ambulance until they are either all dead or pose no threat anymore.

  4. Posted November 6, 2014 at 6:59 pm |

    how nice it must be to dictate the ROE of the other side. How about you sent these out to your people.
    _________________________________
    1) Protesters will first and foremost respect the rights of the community, their property and their persons.
    2) Leaders will ensure that citizens not involved in the protest are allowed to travel freely and without harassment.
    3) Protesters well respect the limits set by the elected community leaders and their representatives.
    4) Leaders will instruct the protesters to follow common rules of order and decorum.

  5. dick, not quite dead white guy
    Posted November 6, 2014 at 7:08 pm |

    Looks like a good opportunity to thin the herd of wildebeests stampeding around.

    Letter from local police to protester ‘Leaders’:
    1. You may assemble and/or march in an orderly manner.
    2. You may not harass passersby or bystanders.
    3. You may not throw anything; if you throw:
    — Plastic water bottles – you will be gassed and arrested.
    — Glass bottles, bricks, rocks – you will be arrested with suitable force and charged with felonious assault.
    — Molotov cocktails – you will be shot.
    4. You may not touch any private property. If you do, you will be arrested for trespass or vandalism.
    5. Looters will be shot on sight.
    6. No littering; clean up after yourselves. Leaders of the protest will be photographed and personally charged with the cleanup.
    7. Outside agitators like Sharpton, Farrakhan, Jackson will be charged with inciting to riot if they make speeches doing just that.
    8. Follow our rules and you may enjoy your peaceful protest; break our rules and you better give your soul to God, because your ass will belong to us.

  6. jlw
    Posted November 6, 2014 at 7:15 pm |

    @5 dick, not quite dead white guy

    if i might:

    4 b) property owners will be allowed, even encouraged, to use deadly force at the first sign of vandalism or trespass, rather than wait for police to arrive.

  7. SondraK, Queen of SondraKistan
    Posted November 6, 2014 at 7:23 pm |

    This shit is what happens when you interfere with Darwin……….

  8. Ironic in Denver
    Posted November 6, 2014 at 7:33 pm |

    Dick 5: aw, you’re trying to spoil all the fun.

    Sondra 7: That is exactly it. We are now at least three, likely fore* (sic) generations into an anti-Darwinian experiment that has obviously gone very wrong. By now, fourth generation rabbits are being raised to actually believe that other people’s gardens are being grown for them, and they are not only entitled to eat them, but that they have a right to resent that those free gardens aren’t nicer than they are.

    * Had to get in my golf reference for the day.

  9. SondraK, Queen of SondraKistan
    Posted November 6, 2014 at 7:39 pm |

    Dick (5) wins. For both content and well articulated and thought-out effort.

  10. DougM (paleface™)
    Posted November 6, 2014 at 8:13 pm |

    Police offer:
    • All state and local laws will be enforced … to the letter,
    including jaywalking, delinquency of minors, and littering.

  11. rickn8or
    Posted November 6, 2014 at 8:23 pm |

    Counter-demand: “Protesters shall eat shit and bark at the moon; Missouri criminal code shall be fully enforced.”

  12. Lord of the Fleas
    Posted November 6, 2014 at 9:09 pm |

    8. Crowd control equipment such as armored vehicles, rubber bullets, rifles and tear gas will not be used.

    Well, I suppose a .50 BMG isn’t typically considered to be crowd control equipment …

  13. Claire: rebellious pink pig with car keys - and a *cause*
    Posted November 6, 2014 at 10:08 pm |

    Plus: No Stupid Chants.

  14. ZZMike
    Posted November 6, 2014 at 10:22 pm |

    “Or what”?????

    “Or we’ll stamp our feet and yell and hold our breath until we turn blue and if we don’t get our way we’ll sit down right here in the middle of the floor and you’ll be sorry.”

    Does anyone know how many of those “protesters” are from out of state? Are the buses still parked at the city limits?

    dnqdwg: You could run for sheriff.

    DougM: “…including jaywalking, delinquency of minors, and littering.”

    And if we find two or more people doing the littering, we’ll charge them with conspiracy with intent to litter.

  15. SondraK, Queen of SondraKistan
    Posted November 6, 2014 at 10:24 pm |

  16. Lucius Severus Pertinax
    Posted November 7, 2014 at 12:59 am |

    @15…
    Um… Would you care to TEST that theory?

  17. Paul
    Posted November 7, 2014 at 8:03 am |

    I strongly suggest the citizens of the city stock up on guns, food, water, gas mask, and BEAR SPRAY.

    If these protesters want to destroy, and the police won’t do their job, then it’s time for the citizens to do theirs.

  18. Mojo
    Posted November 7, 2014 at 10:26 am |

    Where’s the Cossack cavalry when you need ‘em?…

  19. Posted November 7, 2014 at 11:16 am |

    To be fair and balanced, there should also be some agreed rule applying to the protesters side.

    Oh wait. There already is. It’s called The Law.

  20. Annon.
    Posted November 8, 2014 at 1:41 am |

    The only “rule” law enforcement needs in Ferguson is “shoot to kill!” By the new morning, images of dead protesters lying in the street in pools of their own blood will have had the desired effect on most of them and will produce a new-found respect for the “rule-of-law;” and superior firepower!

    The next evening, fewer protestors will effectively increase the potential firepower of the same number of guns the police had the night before, as there will be fewer targets to chose from.

  21. DougM (paleface™)
    Posted November 8, 2014 at 10:13 am |

    ^ I can’t imagine anything more wrong than what you just said.

    (What? Yeah, prob’ly a leftist troll. Notice the “Annon” signature. F’n coward. Well, I assume the troll meant “Anon.”; but if he wants to identify with a pulpy tropical fruit, hey, who am I to object?)

  22. DougM (paleface™)
    Posted November 8, 2014 at 10:19 am |

    Mojo 18^
    I ain’t too awful keen on Tsarist tyranny any more’n mob violence.

  23. Murphy(AZ)
    Posted November 8, 2014 at 12:35 pm |

    ^Doug #21: Just FWIW, ^#20, sent out as Anon., is in reality Mike(AZ); me! I was “Annoning” for another post and forgot to change back to my Clark Kent identity. Nothing sinister here, Boss, just the Alzheimer’s rearing up!

    Certainly not “Leftist,” (I have a Right hand and a Far Right hand,) and not “troll,” more like “curmudgeon” or “Old F*rt.”

  24. Murphy(AZ)
    Posted November 8, 2014 at 1:15 pm |

    In my defense, I’ve been around for a LONG time. I’ve seen the DEMOCRATS fight to stop integration in the ’50′s. I watched the Hippies/Communists fight this country at every turn while America tried to stop the spread of Communism and Socialism throughout the world.

    Every decade since Viet Nam there has been serious conflict between Democracy (Good) and Radical Socialism (Evil,) and still it continues!

    Why? We’ve tried co-existence; it didn’t work. We’ve tried appeasement; that didn’t work either. We’ve tried bluff and bluster and threats. We’ve been called on them each time and been found lacking (gutless, as with this current administration.)

    What we haven’t tried is Rule of Law! Laws mean things, and for the most part, were put in place to help the Nation and protect the Citizens.

    We have Laws that define who are our friends/allies and who are not. We have laws that determine who may be allowed to join us in the American Experience, and when, and who will have to wait until political or social conditions change.

    And there will be those haters, those vile, evil, venom-spitting enemies of the United States who we can NEVER safely allow within our borders if they are not in serious chains and escorted by heavily armed guards with orders to shoot-to-kill should they even belch!

    We have laws; it is time we enforce them to the fullest extent! Rioting is illegal. Enforce those laws, or change them! Looting is illegal. Enforce those laws, or change them! Assaults on law-abiding citizens or law enforcement agents is illegal. Either we enforce those laws, too, or they are useless to the law-abiding citizens and must be abandoned and removed from our Code.

    We claim that we follow “the Rule of Law.” It means NOTHING if we do not!

  25. DougM (paleface™)
    Posted November 8, 2014 at 2:21 pm |

    ^ I apologize for my snideness in the heat of the moment,
    but not for my objection.

  26. Ironic in Denver
    Posted November 8, 2014 at 5:07 pm |

    Sondra’s pic 15: “I’d rather be stopped by ISIS terrorist than Ferguson PD.”

    That’s because there’s no chance this jackass will actually meet an ISIS terrorist, because if the did he’d loose his head. (Possibly after something unpleasant happening at the other end of him first.)

    Always easy to not fear what you know isn’t going to get you.

  27. Ironic in Denver
    Posted November 8, 2014 at 5:11 pm |

    Doug 21, etc.

    I’m sorry Doug, but I’m laughing way to hard to take all this as seriously as I ought.

    Whatever else, you got a way with words.

  28. Colonel Jerry USMC
    Posted November 8, 2014 at 11:10 pm |

    Is this the whiney crap we got to hear about since we won this election? Wait til 2016 when we totally defeat Thunder Thighs!!!!!!

  29. Mojo
    Posted November 9, 2014 at 9:55 am |

    ^22 Doug

    I wasn’t advocating the full panoply of Tsarist repression, just pointing out that when cavalry charges, you WILL be moved…