the irony and the odyssey


what we WISHED he’d said…

N. O’Really

35 Comments!

  1. Fawkes News (Fun Lovin' Thought Criminal)
    Posted November 14, 2014 at 1:46 pm |

    Europeans I know are increasingly shocked by the prudishness of the American left. This little kerfuffle is a perfect demonstration.

  2. SondraK, Queen of SondraKistan
    Posted November 14, 2014 at 1:55 pm |

    This guy spent 10 fucking years of his life accomplishing this and however many years studying to know how and this cunt turns it into this.

    I’m glad SHE can go “on with her life” now….

    Wtf.

  3. exsanguine
    Posted November 14, 2014 at 2:03 pm |

    …and it was made for him by his female friend who is a tatooed alternative burlesque model. /ironyisthick

  4. Dave
    Posted November 14, 2014 at 2:10 pm |

    He would have gotten more respect if he would have told anyone who was offended to kiss his ass.

  5. jlw
    Posted November 14, 2014 at 2:13 pm |

    the feminists ruined the best day of his life.

    this is supposed to gain the support of men?

  6. DougM (paleface™)
    Posted November 14, 2014 at 5:24 pm |

    You want to see an offensive shirt?
    I’ll show you an offensive shirt, you insufferable tw*t:

    ____
    * i

  7. Ironic in Denver
    Posted November 14, 2014 at 6:51 pm |

    ^ Yep, that one always offends me, but I don’t make myself a self-righeous, insufferable twat over it, since I still believe in the First Amendment, unlike some people who major in the minor and don’t care whose life they ruin while doing it.

    I post this link here, not as a recommendation, but rather as a public information service:

    https://www.alohaland.com/pinup-girls-guys/new-gunner-girls

    By the way, careful examination of the print shows that not just one of those ladies, but pretty much *ALL* of them are sporting guns. The shirt’s called “New Gunner Girls” and, yes, they are (temporarily I hope) all sold out.

  8. Ironic in Denver
    Posted November 14, 2014 at 9:07 pm |

    The New Feminist Dog Whistle: plain gray t-shirts.

    It turns out that even a plain gray t-shirt can be sexist and seriously offensive to a habitually offended feminist.

    Last week, in his first-ever public Q&A, Mark Zuckerberg was asked why he wears plain gray t-shirts apparently every waking moment of his life. “I’d feel I’m not doing my job if I spent any of my energy on things that are silly or frivolous about my life,” the Facebook CEO replied.

    Sounds innocuous enough, right? Not to some feminist critics.

    “Is it just me or does the mindset of the Silicon Valley Power-Schlub imply that caring about clothing or how you look invalidates your ability to work?” wrote New York magazine’s Allison Davis in an essay titled, “Zuckerberg Explains His Gray T-Shirts, Sounds Pretty Sexist.”

    Much more follows, in which the author to the article argues that (a) the t-shirt remark was certainly not sexist [there's no gender reference explicit or implied], and (b) that endless, hyper-vigilant, always offended cries of “wolf” are pretty soon going to cause ordinary people to stop listening even when there’s legitimate cause for complaint.

    I know it’s the New Republic, but it’s still worth the read. At least some feminists aren’t total idiots…. which offers some slight balance for the blathering mass who are.

    http://www.newrepublic.com/article/120272/lena-dunham-zuckerberg-controversies-dangers-feminist-overreach

  9. Mojo
    Posted November 14, 2014 at 9:31 pm |

    “Oh, you don’t like the shirt?”
    “No, I don’t!”
    “Tough shit.”

  10. Ironic in Denver
    Posted November 14, 2014 at 9:36 pm |

    ^ you could make a shirt with that on it…

  11. Steve Skubinna
    Posted November 14, 2014 at 11:20 pm |

    Man landed a fucking spaceship on a fucking comet. WTF did this toxic scrunt ever do in her fucking life? How about she STFU when the grownups are speaking.

  12. staghounds
    Posted November 14, 2014 at 11:53 pm |

    Come on, the shirt is tacky. If your daughter’s boss wore it to work you’d say something.

    And mainly, he was stupid to give the ideologisers of science a stick to hit him with.

  13. Fawkes News (Fun Lovin' Thought Criminal)
    Posted November 15, 2014 at 6:02 am |

    ^ It wouldn’t be my wardrobe choice, but this guy is a EUROPEAN rocket scientist. He (1) lives in a culture that isn’t so hung up on sex, and (2) probably wasn’t expecting to be interviewed on TV. In any event, leave it to Fem-Prog busybodies to focus on what he was wearing instead of what he did.

  14. DougM (paleface™)
    Posted November 15, 2014 at 8:00 am |

    Heloooo …
    Rocket. scientists. are. nerds. and. have. no. fashion. sense.
    They’re confusing cosmology with cosmetology again.

    (What? Nah, I was a rocket engineer, not a scientist. Besides, I wore a uniform to work, most of the time. Buuut now that I think of it, off-duty the stereotype probably applied, so nev-er-mind.

  15. Claire: rebellious pink pig with car keys - and a *cause*
    Posted November 15, 2014 at 8:30 am |

    EweToob Account “TERMINATED

  16. Claire: rebellious pink pig with car keys - and a *cause*
    Posted November 15, 2014 at 8:48 am |

    “I’d feel I’m not doing my job if I spent any of my energy on things that are silly or frivolous about my life,”

    ok — g’head and pile on that putz. What a silly, self-important, vacuous little statement of pseudo-superiority. *ick*

    Otherwise — what DougM said.

    If yer that damaged you Special Snowflake™ … … … there’s no help for ya.

  17. SondraK, Queen of SondraKistan
    Posted November 15, 2014 at 9:02 am |

    Frankly not a fan of ” Hawaiian” shirts but *I* wouldn’t have even noticed OR CARED.

    Seriously, staghounds???????????

    The guy doesn’t seem like a douche. I’m sure he just liked the “lucky” shirt his good friend made for him IF he’d given it that much thought and most likely the guy didn’t put that much thought into it considering he’d just accomplished one of the most incredible feats of mankind……….

  18. Merle
    Posted November 15, 2014 at 9:04 am |

    That’s not what I call “scantily clad” by a long stretch!!! :)

    Merle

  19. SondraK, Queen of SondraKistan
    Posted November 15, 2014 at 9:11 am |

    ^ LOL! I know!

    “Feminists” are just jealous ugly hags.

  20. DougM (paleface™)
    Posted November 15, 2014 at 10:28 am |

    He should’ve dressed-up as a vagina.
    Oh, wait … a Femen-tribute shirt.

  21. Ironic in Denver
    Posted November 15, 2014 at 12:35 pm |

    ^ A good many men (but certainly not me) are now going around sporting earrings.

    Imagine one of them spotted wearing tampon earrings (more correctly, tampon pendents, but that’s a nit), and the ensuing furor.

    (Were they trophies? Etc.)

  22. Ironic in Denver
    Posted November 15, 2014 at 12:59 pm |

    Here’s the thing that keeps getting buried (or at least one of them).

    Geeks don’t generally think about what they wear much at all!!!!!!!! (jezzzzz they are busy thinking about what is important to them, which fashion is not*) This should not be a news flash to anyone.

    They usually just put something on. (I have a great audio somewhere of an earnest young reporter asking Bob Dillon about the significance of the fact that he was wearing a t-shirt with a motorcycle on it, and Dillon going “well, it was the one on the top of the stack in my drawer.”)

    However, he, or at least his friend, obviously belongs to one of these counter-culture sub-culturs that sports stuff (and ink) that the mainstream does not. If you believe in self-expression (and of course the Left pretends to, but does not, which is the definition of hypocracy), then you pretty much have to cut him some slack. He could have shown up pierced too, and, according to the Left, he should be evaluated on his work, not his appearance…. until it offends their delicate sensibilities, of course.

    In this particular case, he might have chosen to wear the shirt a friend gave him for a momentous occasion. If that is the case, then complains about optics are bizarro-reversed.

    * Claire 16, I might be misinterpreting, but I think Zuckerman’s point was simply that his focus was elsewhere, and given the amount of money some of his peer group puts into expensive fashion, that strikes me as a non-pretentious thing, rather than the other way around. Not that I like this particular individual, whom I surely do not, but fair is fair. (sorta)

  23. Ironic in Denver
    Posted November 15, 2014 at 12:59 pm |

    ^ Zuckerberg’s point

  24. S2
    Posted November 15, 2014 at 2:32 pm |

    The fellow’s good friend could start selling those shirts, I think. I know I’d buy one, to wear to the next Slutwalk in my area.

  25. SondraK, Queen of SondraKistan
    Posted November 15, 2014 at 3:18 pm |

    Ok, and then I wish he’d have told them to go make him a sammich

  26. S2
    Posted November 15, 2014 at 3:27 pm |

    ^ Winner!

    Plus, there’d be sammiches.

  27. staghounds
    Posted November 15, 2014 at 3:32 pm |

    I agree he’s far more educated about physics than I ever could be.

    Look, I am no kind of prude.

    But seriously, whatever he wears when representing his organisation in front of the cameras of the world is alright?

    “Oh, our people are clever, and they have no fashion sense, so the Nazi armbands, Stalin shirts, Klan robes, and jackets with child porn on them are all off limits for anyone to notice, especially since they were all presents from friends.”

    It’s a tacky shirt, anyone can see that it’s going to embarrass/offend plenty of ordinary people.

    Wearing it reflects poorly on him, nerd or not. Letting him wear it reflects poorly on his bosses. Making the rest of us look at it in order to hear his message is rude.

    And most important, it doesn’t take an idiot to see that wearing it gives the enemies of science some ammunition. How much money that might have go to research will now go to gender sensitivity training, dress code training, and other anti science nonsense?

    This shirt was just plain bad manners, that’s all. We shouldn’t waste energy defending it.

  28. S2
    Posted November 15, 2014 at 4:14 pm |

    ^ You are free to waste a lot of energy attacking it, though.

  29. SondraK, Queen of SondraKistan
    Posted November 15, 2014 at 5:00 pm |

    Sometimes a shirt is just a shirt. Frankly, if you can land a spacecraft on a moving comet you can wear any damn thing you please.

    Wearing a mini skirt that practically has your ass cheeks hanging out and wearing combat boots with your hair spiked up with 1/2 can of AquaNet in the pink and white can while meeting your future husband’s VERY Italian grandfather is probably not a good idea but hay, I was like 20 and I WAS wearing a pair of spandex “pantz” underneath and my boobs weren’t hanging out because I didn’t have any but anyways…

  30. DougM (paleface™)
    Posted November 15, 2014 at 5:18 pm |

    Tacky and offensive are two completely different things.
    Giving offense and taking offense are also two completely different things.

  31. Ironic in Denver
    Posted November 15, 2014 at 6:10 pm |

    Sondra 29:

    That image of you meeting The Most Conservative In-Law-to-be has brightened my day; and now, for the matter of The Planet’s Most Controversial Shirt:

    …if you can land a spacecraft on a moving comet you can wear any damn thing you please.

    Well, yeah, but since so many people want to say what shirt he should wear (or not), I’m going to chip in and say that for obvious reasons he should have worn this one instead:

    https://www.alohaland.com/pinup-girls-guys/red-galactic-gals

    Although it is called “galactic gals” I notice that most are armed with ray guns and such, so it is still a sort of “gunner girls” shirt.

    Personally, I prefer a more natural look, so if I did Hawaii shirts (which I don’t) I might have considered this one:

    https://www.alohaland.com/pinup-girls-guys/green-nature-girl

    One notices right away that the ladies on this shirt are au naturel, and, therefore, not in that “scantily clad” state which seems to be offensive to so many. It does have the deficiency of the ladies not having any guns, but they do have bazookas, so perhaps that will do.

  32. Ironic in Denver
    Posted November 15, 2014 at 6:22 pm |

    Fawkes 1: shocked by the prudishness of the American left

    I have read that Stalin’s Russia, in addition to being repressive in every other way, was very prudish. Maybe when one gets started repressing, there’s just no way to stop.

    Also, the Left pretty much crushes the joy out of everything. Naturally, this means sexuality too.

    Cultural ref: Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four

  33. Claire: rebellious pink pig with car keys - and a *cause*
    Posted November 15, 2014 at 10:33 pm |

    Dija see this? Well put, I thought:

    The issue is this: The termagants, bullies, and harridan harpies who vexed this weakling to the point of tears, on the day which was his triumphant crowning achievement and should have been the happiest of his life, they are not modest Christian women objecting to a tasteless shirt, nor are they scientists worried that their profession create a dignified public appearance.

    The harpies crap on the feast. That is their role. That is who they are.

    They are filth, pure and simple. Don’t give them any cover or concealment by making their madness sound sane.

  34. Claire: rebellious pink pig with car keys - and a *cause*
    Posted November 15, 2014 at 10:49 pm |

    IinD @22 — Mostly I agree with ya — those who live and die by the fashion police are… well, boring. Twits. but:

    “I’d feel I’m not doing my job if I spent any of my energy on things that are silly or frivolous about my life,”

    ANY of your energy? on silly?!?

    “rly? Lighten up, Francis,” is all I wanna say to Mr .gov-connected, follow-everybody-around-on-fb, kajillion-bux-for-what,now?, *I*-am/my-Life’s-Work-is-too-important-for-frivolity-or-silliness. *eyeroll*

    But maybe I’m just a cranky ol slacker…

    And that red Galactic Gals shirt — OMG!!! You just solved one of my toughest Xmas gifts!! That’s ***wonderful***!!!

    Giving offense and taking offense are also two completely different things.
    –DM™

    Words of wisdom, those ^^^

  35. Ironic in Denver
    Posted November 16, 2014 at 1:01 pm |

    ^ 34/30: Giving offense and taking offense are also two completely different things.
    –DM™

    But no one says you can’t do both. [snark, snark]

    Aside: I wonder if a could give offense as a Xmas gift? Hmmm…..