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PETA has released a shocking statement in the wake of Cecil the Lion’s death, saying the dentist who hunted and killed the animal should be killed


  1. Fawkes News (#Snarknado)
    Posted July 30, 2015 at 4:27 am |

    Well, I have two words for this.

    Cognitive Dissonance.

  2. SondraK, Queen of SondraKistan
    Posted July 30, 2015 at 6:08 am |

    Clump of cells…

  3. Dave
    Posted July 30, 2015 at 6:37 am |

    I’m telling you, we live in the Twilight Zone.

  4. dick, not quite dead white guy
    Posted July 30, 2015 at 7:09 am |

    “He needs to be extradited, charged, and, preferably, hanged.”

    Kimmel Chokes Up On Air Over Cecil the Lion, Likens Hunter to Bill Cosby

    MSM calls hunter a Nazi in 4…3…2…

    Bad idea to shoot that particular lion, the head of a pride and still in his reproductive years, a money making tourist attraction.
    Sorry folks, I have to blame the black African thugacracy of Zimbabwe for this one, and yet I would not be surprised if the hunter insisted on a “trophy” lion, and not just a young non-breeder or an old over-the-hill non-breeding male.

  5. Colonel Jerry USMC
    Posted July 30, 2015 at 7:21 am |

    I hunted big game in 1966 and 1967. (…Viet Cong & NVA in Vietnam…)

  6. Claire: rebellious pink pig with car keys - and a *cause*
    Posted July 30, 2015 at 7:41 am |

    Thanks, Disney!

    Would this Social Media SJW witch-hunt be as vicious and enthusiastic if it had been a lion with no name?

    Sure, this dope bribed [and got taken by] local guides, thinking he was gonna have a legal trophy hunt. Trophy hunts is one discussion.

    But I think the social media hunt, chase and eventual lynching of Walter Palmer is by far the more interesting story.

    Who’s it gonna happen to next? Who could it happen to next?

  7. DougM (quiet, keeps to himself, kind of a loner, nobody thought he’d do anything like this)
    Posted July 30, 2015 at 7:45 am |

    The word you’re looking for is: toldjaso.

  8. Lord of the Fleas
    Posted July 30, 2015 at 8:07 am |

    In the future, everyone gets to be Emmanuel Goldstein.

  9. SondraK, Queen of SondraKistan
    Posted July 30, 2015 at 9:26 am |

    Personally, I’m not a fan of trophy hunters. At. All.
    If you kill it you have to grill it.

    ( yea, I know, I got dead stuff hanging on walls and in pretty glass boxes but I found ‘em that way. Dead. Not already in glass boxes…)

  10. Claire: rebellious pink pig with car keys - and a *cause*
    Posted July 30, 2015 at 9:44 am |

    ‘xactly^^ It’s two discussions:

    Trophy Hunters — currently legal. Should that be changed?

    Internet Righteousness SJW Trophy Hunters — also currently legal. WTF do we do about that?

    Certainly encourages the average fella to keep hiz head down, duddn’t it?

  11. geezerette
    Posted July 30, 2015 at 10:23 am |

    I dun no— that lion looks pretty old and feeble to me — at that age where he shudda been pushed off a cliff in his wheel chair– ya no that kinda old?? So what difference did it make at his age????? Unwanted babies and old feeble lions– (people)

  12. ZZMike
    Posted July 30, 2015 at 10:28 am |

    Typical PETA hyperbole – advocating murder.

    Meanwhile, thousands of animals “entrusted” to PETA are killed regularly.

  13. Posted July 30, 2015 at 11:08 am |

    Poor little Cecil the lion was 13. Lions live to be 14 if they’re lucky. All the pictures you see of Cecil were from 3-6 years ago. We’re being “Trayvonned’ here.

    Naughty game guides “lured” him off the reservation with a piece of carrion. Really? The reservation is 5657 square miles. If the stink was that strong, it ought to have also lured every meat eater around for a 5 day radius. Something else here smells worse than rotting warthog.

    If the guides used a perfectly legal scent bait, and the lion came out of the reservation to go after it, then the kill was made in an unprotected space. Thus it can’t be poaching. Zimbabwe authorities were happy to take the doc’s money to license the hunt, and now they’re shopping him. Typical.

  14. Fawkes News (#Snarknado)
    Posted July 30, 2015 at 12:19 pm |

    ^ Hey, wait. Was Boehner really talking about Cecil?

  15. Posted July 30, 2015 at 5:53 pm |

    While I’d certainly be opposed to a “kill it, cape it and leave the carcass behind” form of trophy hunting, I’ve never heard of a legitimate trophy hunter conducting themselves in such manner.

    The ethical hunter quarters the game, and sees to it that the meat is at least donated to a homeless shelter, native tribe or other such needful place. It’s a point of pride in the hunting community, to honor the fallen game, and wastefulness is a highly dishonorable practice.

    Be assured, there’s no lion meat going to waste there in Rhodesia. Or Zimbooboo.

    Yeah, back in the bad ol’ days, buffalo hunters would lay waste to as many head as they could shoot n’ skin in a day’s time. But the only market then was for the skin, and there was no refrigeration by which to preserve the meat. Still, wasteful.

    Modern trophy hunting has evolved into a very ethically scrutinized undertaking. Most all the Boone & Crockett hunters out there take it very, very seriously, and you can sure get kicked out the club real quick for running afoul of the code.

    And finally… generates absolutely huge sums of money, money which pays for the maintenance of entire multi-thousand acre ranches, herds and game improvement programs.

    Most game animals would truly suffer ill effects if hunting, and especially trophy hunting, were to be eliminated.

    I’m not a trophy hunter, I’m a freezer-filler. But I often get to hunt culls and surplus does on high-dollar game operations, usually for cheap or for free. I (and other hunters) put the less than stellar examples in our freezers, and the High Roller whut flies down in his King Air pays $10k for a single whitetail trophy. He’s happy, I’m happy, the rancher is happy, and the well managed, healthy herd of deer is a lot better off than if allowed to overpopulate, and suffer starvation, disease and the ill effects of allowing the genetically inferior bucks to attain breeding status in the herd.

    Yeah, it’s still a tough thing there, at the end. But the benefits far outweigh what a prohibition would entail.

    I think I’ll thaw out some Lake Livingston doe for dinner tomorrow night.

    Sunk New Dawn
    Galveston, TX

  16. Ironic in Denver
    Posted July 30, 2015 at 6:56 pm |

    a) Personally, I like lions. Especially if they aren’t trying to eat me. So far, none have; so they’re on my A-list.

    b) Sondra 9: If you kill it you have to grill it. Probably in bad taste for me to think that means napalm. Can think of several “big game” reserves that could use some now.

    c) If someone can convince PETA that human fetuses are animals, we’re going to have an interesting time.

  17. DougM (quiet, keeps to himself, kind of a loner, nobody thought he’d do anything like this)
    Posted July 31, 2015 at 9:07 am |

    Jim ^15 saved me a lot of words.
    You kill vermin. You harvest game (which means that either you or an orphanage or a local village eats the meat). “Trophy” just means that it’s a particular species/type/characteristic valued by the hunter, whether or not he, personally, eats it. The eco-balance and wasteful-slaughter issues are handled by licensing.
    “All lion lives matter” is BS.

    It’s not clear that the hunter broke the law, himself.
    I heard that the problem was that one of his guides was unlicensed. Reckon we’ll hear more about this, but it might be another “hands up, don’t shoot” thing.

    I like animals … a lot, but not all for the same reason (somewhat less if they don’t like me).
    Personally, I find it hard to get all worked up about the demise of a predator, especially an apex predator. A lion is not merely a big kitty.

    Anybody get interviews with the local gazelles?

  18. Colonel Jerry USMC
    Posted July 31, 2015 at 11:11 am |

    On the farm we hunted squirrels, rabbits, quail
    and ducks. Because it was food on the table for us. We also hunted red foxes w dogs, because the local court house gave us $3.00 for a scalp (…mostly because foxes killed famer`s chickens.) My uncle also hunted raccoons at night with dogs because he got $1.00 for each skin (…in the 1950s Davy Crockett was a popular TV show and Coonskin hats were all the rage for kids…)

    I was never taught, nor would have liked to kill an animal for the sake of a trophy. Rich men who went to Africa to do so never appealed to me, for all the above reasons. (…I realize that centuries before me involved killing buffalos for warm fur hides and meat for indians and pioneers…).

  19. DougM (quiet, keeps to himself, kind of a loner, nobody thought he’d do anything like this)
    Posted July 31, 2015 at 11:49 am |

    Don’t miss Stilton’s take on this.

  20. DougM (quiet, keeps to himself, kind of a loner, nobody thought he’d do anything like this)
    Posted July 31, 2015 at 12:02 pm |

    … as if going to the dentist’s office wasn’t scary enough.

    (What? Yeah, almost peed myself, again.)

  21. DougM (quiet, keeps to himself, kind of a loner, nobody thought he’d do anything like this)
    Posted July 31, 2015 at 12:43 pm |

    Dyin’, here, boss!
    (Well, no, not in a bullet-in-the-brain kind’a way, but still …)

    Which brings me to the Darwinian influence of …

  22. Ironic in Denver
    Posted July 31, 2015 at 1:28 pm |

    ^ Circle of life: good thing I wasn’t drinking coffee when I saw that.

    ( I suppose it would spoil the effect to post “spew warnings” –> like “trigger warnings,” only funnier. )

  23. DougM (quiet, keeps to himself, kind of a loner, nobody thought he’d do anything like this)
    Posted July 31, 2015 at 1:43 pm |

    … because nobody who joined this lynch mob ever lived in a place where a local news headline read:

  24. ZZMike
    Posted July 31, 2015 at 1:52 pm |

    DougM: Most of the ruckus is that somebody gave the lion a name. “Cecil” – such a warm, cuddly name. (Oldtime movie actor Cecil Kellaway….) Would people be as upset if the name was “Vladimir” or “Khomeini” – or just “Lion Nr 4388″?

  25. DougM (quiet, keeps to himself, kind of a loner, nobody thought he’d do anything like this)
    Posted July 31, 2015 at 2:07 pm |

    You want more toldjaso?

  26. Posted July 31, 2015 at 9:17 pm |

    I submit to you that the $55,000 that dentist paid to hunt a lion, plus the $shit-ton he paid for a previous hunt, did more for the conservation of lions than every single bleeding heart piss-pot who is currently howling for the hunter’s head.

    You want to know why the wild turkey isn’t extinct? Because people pay $$$$$$ to hunt it.

    You want to know why the white rhino isn’t extinct? Because people pay $$$$$ to hunt it. Therefore, it’s more valuable for Africans to maintain and grow the Rhino population rather than allow Chinese poachers to hunt it into the history books.

    Ted Nugent said it best – you want to save the condor? Come up with a few recipes and start charging a ton of money for Condor tags. Not only will the money go to condor preservation, but the hunters themselves will kill any sonofabitch who poaches a bird and thus reduces their chances of getting a legitimate shot.

    All of this “Oh a trophy hunt is EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVIL!” obscures the fact that this dentist put well over $100,000 into the local economy of that area – an economy that exists to preserve the lion population and thus continue the inflow of cash. Remove that huge chunk ‘o change, and all you have is impoverished Africans who have no reason to allow the lions to live.

    I do understand the urge to rail against trophy hunts. I myself don’t hunt anything that I won’t eat. It’s why I won’t hunt gophers and other various non-edible small game; if it won’t fill my freezer, I’m not shooting it. But trophy hunting has given rise to an economy that is predicated upon KEEPING THESE SPECIES ALIVE. Just like wild turkeys in the USA. Remove that, and those species go bye-bye. Especially in Africa, where the rule of law isn’t exactly followed to the letter.

  27. ZZMike
    Posted July 31, 2015 at 9:45 pm |

    Ragin’ Dave: I think you’ll find that most of the $100k went into the pockets of local warlords (like Zimbabwe’s president).

    Now let’s talk about elephants. They get poached almost daily by natives. I don’t think charging people for elephant tags is going to help there.

  28. Posted July 31, 2015 at 9:58 pm |

    They might, they might not. Give the land-owners a reason to protect the elephant herds on their property and let’s see what happens. I would note that massive amounts of poaching of all animals occurs on the national parks within Africa. That would be the no-hunting-allowed parks.

  29. ZZMike
    Posted July 31, 2015 at 10:03 pm |

    Ragin’ Dave: “… on the national parks within Africa.”

    Sorta like “gun-free zones” here.

  30. Posted July 31, 2015 at 10:05 pm |

    I’m also willing to bet dollars to donuts that shitbirds like Mugabe are kept alive and functioning by the support of proto-marxist governments rather than fees from hunting big game. Africa isn’t exactly awash in support for democratic republicanism. This is an area of Earth where one tribe would sell another tribe into slavery. Now that slavery is abolished in the Anglo world, one tribe simply mutilates the other tribe, to include hacking off arms, legs and breasts of the victim tribe’s women. Africa is a place where life is cheap.

    And on the concept of money, let’s say the land owner only kept 10% of the money paid out. What’s ten grand to the landowner? Is it enough to keep a population of an endangered species alive and well?

  31. Posted July 31, 2015 at 10:07 pm |

    Please note that I’m not trying to be a complete A-hole here. I’m just looking at reality. You’re dealing with a country where having the wrong color skin gets you kicked off of land your family has owned for generations. Where people are murdered and killed in order to keep the ruling faction in power. How do you keep endangered species alive in such an area?

    Make it monetarily viable.

  32. Posted July 31, 2015 at 10:14 pm |

    “sorta like “gun-free zones” here”

    Pretty much. Some parks have rangers that require automatic weapons to repel the poachers. Lots of park rangers have been killed by poachers who want ivory, or the spleen of the red-bellied greenpeace idiom that they sell to some Oriental country where stupid men think that they can get their Chairman Mao to stand at attention if only they drink a soup made from the gall bladder of the Emerald-Throated Wildlife Totem. This is not a nice place. It’s a place ruled by guns, fear, and the use of violence. Given my druthers, I’d carpet bomb most of the settled areas and let the wildlife have free rein. Since I can’t have my druthers, I’ll settle for land-owners killing poachers in order to collect their payday.

    I understand that is not a nice sentiment. I’m at a point in my life where I don’t give a damn about nice. I can’t stop people from slaughtering other people in a continent half a world away.

  33. ZZMike
    Posted August 1, 2015 at 12:51 pm |

    I remember when Mugabe and his thugs took over. He confiscated the farms, exiled the farmers, and let his friends take over.

    Then about a year later they tried to figure out why the farms weren’t producing. Not much later, they were printing 100 Trillion dollar notes. From this June:

    “Zimbabwe phases out local currency at 35 quadrillion to US$1″
    “People with accounts of up to 175 quadrillion … Zimbabwean dollars will be paid $5 [US].”

    There’s an old saying that nice guys finish last. Nice works occasionally, but when it doesn’t, we don’t hesitate to go to not-nice.