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somebody gettin’ froggy?

We heard on the nooz that all planes around LAX would be restricted from flying in/out to the West. Only reason we noticed at all was that a pal is going down there next week and discussions of how it would screw up her flight ensued.

Los Angeles International Airport officials warned residents earlier that overnight air traffic patterns would be altered Saturday and continuing into next week because of activity from a nearby military base. … The change in overnight operations will continue through Nov. 12…

Later that evening, Lovely Daughter the Elder was at some function, standing outside waiting for someone and she saw something in the sky that looked like this:

…only her pic was greener. She said the green light lasted, kinda sparkly-like, until she got cold and went inside.

Cmdr. Ryan Perry with the Navy’s Third Fleet said the Navy Strategic Systems Programs conducted a scheduled Trident II (D5) missile test flight at sea from USS Kentucky, causing the bright light.

“Scheduled” ? But not “routine”, based on the freak-out response from the natives.

The confusion and social media uproar that erupted Saturday night are an unfortunate but unavoidable trade-off [with] The need for secrecy Saturday was all the more important given the type of weapon the Navy was testing, according to Thompson.

…Knowing that a Trident was going to be tested would give prying eyes — sailors on a Russian submarine in the Pacific, for example — the ability to gather valuable information,

If I were in the know — or paying any attention at all — I’d have figured *something* was up hearing that traffic for a major airport near a major port and many major military bases was being re-routed. meh… maybe it’s JustMe™…

[the Navy's full statement] Navy Strategic Systems Programs conducted scheduled Trident II (D5) missile test flight at sea from USS Kentucky, an Ohio Class SSBN, in the Pacific Test Range off the coast of Southern California. The tests were part of a scheduled, ongoing system evaluation test. Launches are conducted on a frequent, recurring basis to ensure the continued reliability of the system. Each test activity provides valuable information about our systems, thus contributing to assurance in our capabilities.

The missile was not armed. Strategic Systems Programs does not routinely announce missile testing. Information regarding the test launch of Trident II (D5) missiles is classified before the launch.”

“The tests were part of a scheduled, ongoing system evaluation test. Launches are conducted on a frequent, recurring basis to ensure the continued reliability of the system. Each test activity provides valuable information about our systems, thus contributing to assurance in our capabilities,” a spokesman told the Los Angeles Times. “The missile was not armed. Strategic Systems Programs does not routinely announce missile testing. Information regarding the test launch of Trident II (D5) missiles is classified prior to the launch.”

There was a notice about undisclosed military activity causing a flight path shift at Los Angeles International Airport, but it’s unclear if it was related to the test.

Officials warned that LAX was diverting arriving flights away from normal landing routes to steer clear of temporary military airspace, airport officials announced. The adjusted paths will bring more noise to residential areas directly east of LAX until Thursday.

So….

31 Comments!

  1. Nomen Nescio
    Posted November 9, 2015 at 1:27 pm |

    Clearly this was meant to send a message to our enemies. I’m just a little surprised it wasn’t launched off the coast of Kentucky.

  2. DougM (quiet, keeps to himself, kind of a loner, nobody thought he’d do anything like this)
    Posted November 9, 2015 at 1:30 pm |

    The exclusion zone is routine for missile and satellite launches.
    Ask me how I know. [official bio available with SASE]

    Anyone old enough to have seen the dozens of routine night-time Minuteman and MX launches from Vandenberg back in the ’60/’70/’80s will have recognized that imagery immediately.

    As the missile arcs into the west, you’re looking almost up the tailpipe. As it reaches higher altitude, the atmospheric pressure drops, so the exhaust plume spreads out into a beautiful corona. It’s friggin’ awesome!

    Or not.
    Or mebbe more not.

    Those whose personal history does not include the Cold War will be freaked by the novelty.
    Those whose history does include the Cold War should also be freaked by the memory.
    What’s old is new again.
    Duck and cover, my friends, duck and cover.

  3. Nomen Nescio
    Posted November 9, 2015 at 1:53 pm |

    ^1 (me), okay just reread the original and saw the missile was launched from the Kentucky. So my joke, already tepidly lame, is now officially stupid. Sue me.

  4. Ironic in Denver
    Posted November 9, 2015 at 2:11 pm |

    ^ I don’t get it why the joke is stupid*, so I guess I’m dumber than it is.

    In any case, you were probably reading from Obama’s Map of the 57 States. There’s been a lot of confusion caused by that map over the last eight years.

    * I thought it was funny, which likely shows something we don’t want to see.

  5. DougM (quiet, keeps to himself, kind of a loner, nobody thought he’d do anything like this)
    Posted November 9, 2015 at 2:14 pm |

    Nomen ^1
    Heck, I thought it was a pretty good joke.
    I was gonna make one about Kentucky windage, but then thought better of it.

  6. Ironic in Denver
    Posted November 9, 2015 at 2:42 pm |

    A quick review of the post:

    Knowing that a Trident was going to be tested would give prying eyes — sailors on a Russian submarine in the Pacific, for example — the ability to gather valuable information,

    If I were in the know — or paying any attention at all — I’d have figured *something* was up hearing that traffic for a major airport near a major port and many major military bases was being re-routed….

    But of course, Russian and Chinese intelligence agents don’t know anything, so they wouldn’t have noticed Something Was Up* until it was too late….

    …. And as Doug’s maybe more not link points out, they way they did it maximized attention…
    … So “classified” might have been sort of just a formality here?

    Of course, the real reason was to get the NorKs and Persians to choke on their own spit and drop dead with envy? Or Maybe Captain Zero, having just had his lunch money taken by pretty much every bad actor on the planet, wanted to reassure himself that he can still get it up?*

    “The missile was not armed.”

    No nukes flying around loose then? Or was it the one they rear-ended lately, and it was too damaged to put on the missile? (“Hey, Jim, you’re going to have to shoot off that scheduled but not routine Trident without a nuke, kuz we’ve crunched one already, and can’t spare any more.”)

    * Pun intended.

  7. Ironic in Denver
    Posted November 9, 2015 at 3:03 pm |

    Doug’s or not link: According to the December 2008 BBC Radio 4 documentary The Human Button, there were four known options given to the Prime Minister to include in the [British Boomer dooms' day instruction] letters…

    ….I guess British P.M.s aren’t what they used to be, or there’d be a fifth option: reinvade Ireland and fight on from there. Just kidding. The Irish would probably be on the other side of whatever conked the Brits anyway, for contrariness if nothing else.

  8. DougM (quiet, keeps to himself, kind of a loner, nobody thought he’d do anything like this)
    Posted November 9, 2015 at 4:27 pm |

    ^ i.e. “neutral”

    Re: Trident
    Nuclear deterrence is like concealed-carry — y’gotta put in a little time at the range, and it doesn’t hurt if the neighbors see see you puttin’ your gun case and ammo can in the trunk once in a while. Toss-in your biggest long-gun case, too, just for effect.

  9. neal
    Posted November 9, 2015 at 4:29 pm |

    Nothing to see here. Just secure datalines deep in the ocean, and subs, and trawlers. Out here in the desert, rogue orbitals are just beer cans.

    It’s the damned tropospheric balloons. Always a cover story.

    Fish in a barrel. Or unfortunate monkeys. Probably aliens, just saying.

  10. DougM (quiet, keeps to himself, kind of a loner, nobody thought he’d do anything like this)
    Posted November 9, 2015 at 4:43 pm |

    ^ Here, this should help.

  11. DougM (quiet, keeps to himself, kind of a loner, nobody thought he’d do anything like this)
    Posted November 9, 2015 at 4:53 pm |

    Wohooo! The Navy launched a second one.

    (What? Yeah, I wonder if they painted the Ayatollah’s name on the nose.)

  12. DougM (quiet, keeps to himself, kind of a loner, nobody thought he’d do anything like this)
    Posted November 9, 2015 at 5:19 pm |

    Spectacular photos from the San Francisco area here.

  13. Dave
    Posted November 9, 2015 at 5:29 pm |

    Loved watching the result of those launches from Vandenberg when I was a kid living in Reseda. Really beautiful.
    Rocketdyne had a facility in Chatsworth that tested rocket engines and you could hear them for miles.

  14. Ironic in Denver
    Posted November 9, 2015 at 5:38 pm |

    ^^

    The Navy … would not … disclose where the exercise was actually taking place.

    Uh…. wouldn’t most folks guess that the exercise was taking place at the site of the missile launches?

  15. Ironic in Denver
    Posted November 9, 2015 at 5:48 pm |

    ^^^^ I wonder if they painted the Ayatollah’s name on the nose.

    I was hoping it was headed to Iraq and that the “dummy” warhead was designed to release a flurry of notes in Farsi that said “Greetings from the Great Satan,” but of course my government has disappointed me once again.

  16. Ironic in Denver
    Posted November 9, 2015 at 5:50 pm |

    Doug 10: …..so, Tridents are fueled with swamp gas? Good to know.

  17. DougM (quiet, keeps to himself, kind of a loner, nobody thought he’d do anything like this)
    Posted November 9, 2015 at 6:06 pm |

    IinD ^14
    Yes. Yes, they would, but a trajectory has two ends.
    In this case the other end is Kwajalein (I assume).
    You know, the guys who shag those flies and the ABM guys.

    I suspect that the secrecy was, to a large extent, tied to minimizing the ability of those pesky “trawlers” to monitor the warhead payload impacts. You know, “Launch control, we have confirmation that the trawler captain is now in the head, and he took his crossword-puzzle book.”

  18. mojo
    Posted November 9, 2015 at 8:10 pm |

    Dunno, never seen a Trident II launch. Doesn’t look like a normal exhaust plume to me, though.

  19. dick, not quite dead white guy
    Posted November 9, 2015 at 8:35 pm |

    Shoulda launched them near the Spratly islands.
    The Chicom response would be more spectacular than the, you know, I mean, like, the Kalifornians’ fuggin panic, fuggin, like, you know, and the Trident plumes put together.

  20. rickn8or
    Posted November 9, 2015 at 10:28 pm |

    DougM, back in ’84-’87 I did a little flying (or more correctly, riding around in an aircraft) in support of Trident and Peacekeeper ops from a Naval Air station south of Vandenberg. (Best Navy duty ever!)

    I’ve also played “javelin catcher” on the other end of such operations. Never saw any night launches, but seeing the arrival of the “bus” at the other end was truly scary.

    And as regards those “trawlers,” I swear they must have been “Info” addees on the message traffic; they’d be gone for months, but as soon as test ops for Harpoon or Tommyhatchet cranked up, there they’d be, big as life and right square in the way of the tests.

  21. Ironic in Denver
    Posted November 10, 2015 at 8:57 am |

    ^ Good how that “classified” thing works, eh?

  22. DougM (quiet, keeps to himself, kind of a loner, nobody thought he’d do anything like this)
    Posted November 10, 2015 at 9:13 am |

    rickn8or ^20
    Well, heck. You’re the expert on this stuff, then.
    I don’t have any connection with ballistic missiles (weapons), just satellite launchers.

    Night launches are unforgettable. Lookin’ up the poop chute of a rocket engine is visually awesome, and the noise is incredible.

    [lights pipe, leans back]
    Yep, I ‘member this here one time. Ohhh, it was way back in ought-’73 or so, an’ I was on near-fallback duty at Vandenberg’s SLC-4W (that there’s where they stage ‘em emergency an’ security fellers, about a mile north of the launch pad). Wellp, we was all stompin’ around in the cold night Vandy-fog, prayin’ for that there booster rocket to clear the beach, ’cause then it would be the Coast Guard’s dadburned problem. Dayum, if that there rocket warn’t the loudest danged thing in the whole danged county! She rose, a roarin’ an’ a barkin’ into the fog. Couldn’t tell which a-way she was goin’, ’cause’a the dang fog. Then, as she pitched over onto ‘er southbound trajectory, ‘em engines began to turn straight t’ords us. Nope, not afeared to admit that it sounded like that bigass flyin’ tank o’ poisonous fuel an’ acid was a-comin’ right down at us. We couldn’t see a thing, ‘cept each others biiig round eyes. Reckon we all thought, “Heck, no use a-runnin’ nor crawlin’ un’er the fire truck.”

    (What? Uh, no, we weren’t all killed.)

  23. mojo
    Posted November 10, 2015 at 9:38 am |

    I got to watch a Minuteman III launch from Vberg back in the late 70′s. Real exciting for about 30-45 seconds. Noisy as hell.

    Them suckers move.

  24. Lord of the Fleas
    Posted November 10, 2015 at 9:41 am |

    ^^ And as regards those “trawlers,” I swear they must have been “Info” addees on the message traffic; they’d be gone for months, but as soon as test ops for Harpoon or Tommyhatchet cranked up, there they’d be, big as life and right square in the way of the tests.

    And that was long before Hitlery set up her special rules-are-for-little-people server system.

  25. rickn8or
    Posted November 10, 2015 at 9:53 am |

    Mojo, I was amazed to find out that we could stand outside at Point Mugu, and see a daylight launch of a Peacekeeper at Vandenberg.

    And that was long before Hitlery set up her special rules-are-for-little-people server system.

    And after that shitheel John Walker stopped selling crypto codes to the Russians.

  26. Ironic in Denver
    Posted November 10, 2015 at 10:01 am |

    ^ Who needs people like Walker when you’ve got people like H->? She’s a cheap date (if you go in the back door instead of giving millions to her “charity”) and easy to hack…. not to mention being a hack.

  27. mech
    Posted November 10, 2015 at 10:04 am |

    Not to mention that all the radars and instruments are in that neighborhood. If they launched off the coast of Kentucky or the Spratleys, they couldn’t see it to get any data.

    I miss all the THAAD launches south of us (at White Sands) back when I got up and out the door before the sun peeked over the mountains. Such pretty, tangled threads of exhaust plumes in the sky.

  28. Claire: rebellious pink pig with car keys - and a *cause*
    Posted November 10, 2015 at 10:30 am |

    Gots my DuckCover ready!

  29. Ironic in Denver
    Posted November 10, 2015 at 11:01 am |

    mech 27: If they launched off the … Spratleys, they couldn’t see it to get any data.

    Why not just cut a package deal with the Russians? We’ll let them back into the Middle East in exchange for their trawler data plus a complete and underrated copy of all H->’s emails?

    ….. oh, wait, that ship may have sailed. Well, what else would Putin want?

  30. Ironic in Denver
    Posted November 10, 2015 at 12:55 pm |

    ^ I typed “unredacted” nor “underrated” but was once again ambushed by the freaking predictive typing feature that thinks it knows better than I do. It must have been designed by a Leftist.

  31. rickn8or
    Posted November 10, 2015 at 6:43 pm |

    As the missile arcs into the west, you’re looking almost up the tailpipe. As it reaches higher altitude, the atmospheric pressure drops, so the exhaust plume spreads out into a beautiful corona. It’s friggin’ awesome!

    Yes, I’ve seen that at night while enroute from Moffet to SoCal to play with U.S. submarines. It WAS awesome!