Today’s exercise in itoldjaso

Millions of dollars later, Maryland has officially decided that its 15-year effort to store and catalog the “fingerprints” of thousands of handguns was a failure.

Since 2000, the state required that gun manufacturers fire every handgun to be sold here and send the spent bullet casing to authorities. The idea was to build a database of “ballistic fingerprints” to help solve future crimes. But the system … never solved a single case.

That would be the itoldjaso part.
People who buy new guns from a dealer must pass a criminal background check to verify that they are not known criminals.
You know, they’re not the people who commit the violent crimes.

Now the hundreds of thousands of accumulated casings could be sold for scrap.

Good luck finding someone who wants to open a gazillion envelopes for each case.
(Yeah, okay, I know a couple of reloading fanatics who would take ‘em off their hands for free.)

“Obviously, I’m disappointed,” said former Gov. Parris N. Glendening, a Democrat whose administration pushed for the database to fulfill a campaign promise. “It’s a little unfortunate, in that logic and common sense suggest that it would be a good crime-fighting tool.” [more]

“Common sense”? You keep using that term. I do not think it means what you think it means.
But, then again, he’s a Prog; and they tend to be either stupid or disingenuous to the point of indistinguishability.

Case forensics works if the weapon is captured with a perp or can be tied to a perp (DNA/prints) — no database needed.
Pros police their brass, ditch an untraceable gun (stolen or illegally bought), or change or scuff the barrel/extractor/firing pin.
I’m guessin’ that a perp’s fingerprints on the brass is far more useful.
(What? Well, revolvers don’t leave cases lying around at the scene, so one has to match the projectile to the barrel.)

But, hey, don’t listen to me.
Any cops, forensic techs, or criminal-justice pros wanna wade in?


  1. Fawkes News (No football till Obama resigns)
    Posted November 10, 2015 at 12:10 pm |

    How much money did they waste on this one?

    Next up: a high-speed train line from Annapolis to Hagerstown.

  2. Ironic in Denver
    Posted November 10, 2015 at 12:50 pm |

    Any cops, forensic techs, or criminal-justice pros wanna wade in?

    For some reason or other*, I always thought the pseudo forensic tech who’s pic graces your post is criminally hot; does that count?

    * Course I’ve always liked smart wimmin who use computers and chew gum, so that could be it.

  3. Ironic in Denver
    Posted November 10, 2015 at 12:52 pm |

    What “common sense” means to a proggie is that they want to do it and hope to shout down anyone who says the idea is stupid and won’t work. By that standard this particular C-F was a poster child for “common sense.”

  4. DougM (quiet, keeps to himself, kind of a loner, nobody thought he’d do anything like this)
    Posted November 10, 2015 at 1:20 pm |

    IinD ^2
    Yeah, Abby’s bangs give me a Bettie Page tingle,
    and the ponytails give me a Suzie Melovski back in 7th grade tingle.

  5. dick, not quite dead white guy
    Posted November 10, 2015 at 1:29 pm |

    Next news on the gun front:
    Progs fail to get guns registered because of 2nd Amendment; now demand serial numbered bullets and a bullet registry.

    Rush to buy shotguns unprecendented.

    PS (how many digits in 999 billion again?)

  6. Gray Rider
    Posted November 10, 2015 at 6:04 pm |

    Governor Pataki followed Maryland’s lead and instituted this law in NY. The NYSP, of which I was a member, were responsible for collection and storage of the casings.

    I know for a fact that none of our forensic technicians were consulted prior to the law’s taking effect. The NYSP were also responsible for maintaining all the handgun registration data statewide; those responsible could not tell me how many handguns were sold in NY in any given year.

    As far as cost; there were 9 Sergeants, each with a civilian aide detailed to collect the casings statewide. With salaries, pensions and other benefits this cost the state nearly two million dollars a year.

    To the best of my knowledge only one handgun was ever identified and that one had been reported stolen months earlier making the info useless.

    The program was quietly abandoned after 10 years or so. I don’t believe there was any public announcement of it.

    Clearly it was a case of Pataki wanting to show he was “Doing something in combating gun crimes” by attacking something easy, guns, and not doing something hard, like combating those who commit crimes with guns. I wish he would be asked about this if he ever appears in another debate.

  7. rickn8or
    Posted November 10, 2015 at 6:38 pm |

    Glendening should be sentenced to sort all those cases by caliber for sale to reloaders in hopes of trying to recoup the $5M cost to the state of Maryland.

  8. DougM (quiet, keeps to himself, kind of a loner, nobody thought he’d do anything like this)
    Posted November 10, 2015 at 7:21 pm |

    Gray Rider ^^
    Thanks for the input.
    I find it corresponds nicely with my existing opinions and is, therefore, true.

  9. mojo
    Posted November 10, 2015 at 8:18 pm |

    About covers it. Almost as stupid as California wanting micro-print numbers on firing pins. What’s to keep you from swapping out the pin?

  10. rickn8or
    Posted November 10, 2015 at 10:43 pm |

    mojo, unless they make emery paper a controlled substance in CA…

  11. drew458
    Posted November 12, 2015 at 10:30 am |

    There are plenty of places, like, that sell replacement barrels for popular older revolvers. The barrel is only screwed in to the receiver anyway. A little work with leather padded vise and wrench, and they come right off.

    Used to be you could get Army surplus 1911 barrels by the boxfull, a couple hundred at a time, for cheap.