It’s a Culture – Not A Costume!!

You Raaaacists!!
by Paddy O’Furniture & Pat McGroin

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by 1632, Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat in the West Indies. By 1637 a census showed that 69% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves, which records show was a cause of concern to the English planters. But there were not enough political prisoners to supply the demand, so every petty infraction carried a sentence of transporting, and slaver gangs combed the country sides to kidnap enough people to fill out their quotas.

Although African Negroes were better suited to work in the semi-tropical climates of the Caribbean, they had to be purchased, while the Irish were free for the catching, so to speak. It is not surprising that Ireland became the biggest source of livestock for the English slave trade.

…more Irish were sold as slaves to the American colonies and plantations from 1651 to 1660 than the total existing free population of the Americas…

…African Negroes cost generally about 20 to 50 pounds Sterling, compared to 900 pounds of cotton (about 5 pounds Sterling) for an Irish.

PubCrawls.com is under fire for selling a “Drunk Lives Matter” t-shirt for St. Patrick’s Day. The parody shirt, which is also being sold on Amazon, has been called “offensive” and “scary.”

…“For people of color it’s already scary enough to see masses of drunk white people roaming around town, but to see them intoxicated and making fun of a movement whose goal is to save our very lives? Well, that’s damn near terrifying… Be careful folks.”

18 Comments!

  1. Fawkes News
    Posted March 17, 2017 at 9:17 am |

  2. Jess
    Posted March 17, 2017 at 11:17 am |

    An Irish priest is driving along a country road when a police man pulls him over. He immediately smells alcohol on the priest’s breath and notices an empty wine bottle in the car.

    He says: “Have you been drinking?”

    “Just water,” says the priest.

    The cop replies: “Then why do I smell wine?”

    The priest looks at the bottle and says: “Good Lord! He’s done it again!”

  3. neal
    Posted March 17, 2017 at 12:07 pm |

    Here in New Mexico, every Cinco de Mayo the Scots/Irish pretend to enjoy mariachi music.

    But on Saint Patrick’s day, we listen to the songs of our people, in the original mariachi…as the Good Lord intended.

    No green beer. Extra limes. Irish butter on the tortillas, as intended.

  4. DougM (recovering white male)
    Posted March 17, 2017 at 12:41 pm |

    Ahhh, history.

    Wait…
    green is a “color” to be a “people of,” innit?

    Researchin’ me ol’ Dad’s ancestors from Canadia, found a census form listing Great-Grandma’s race as “Irish.” Wow, white privilege and the pecking order sure have changed.

  5. DougM (recovering white male)
    Posted March 17, 2017 at 1:02 pm |

    Funny, *ha-ha*, or funny, sick in the head?

    …although I kind’a see it as “green pride.”

  6. Posted March 17, 2017 at 1:23 pm |

    I’m so thankful that I grew up in a time where the concept of “scary” was pretty much relegated to the domain of horror movies like Frankenstein. Yes, in elementary school, we had to go out in the hallway and crouch up against the walls for our nuclear bomb drills, but we were never scared about it – also, it was mandatory, so …

  7. Joe Bandmember ≠ ® "damn right I'm not equal to that" ™
    Posted March 17, 2017 at 1:42 pm |

    Do green teeth count?

  8. Joe Bandmember ≠ ® "damn right I'm not equal to that" ™
    Posted March 17, 2017 at 1:43 pm |

    If only it were mushroom season.

  9. dick, not quite dead white guy
    Posted March 17, 2017 at 2:15 pm |

    #endstpatricksday.
    Fair enough….after we end Black History Month & MLK Day.

    Let’s see her try to push that exchange.

  10. Daemon
    Posted March 17, 2017 at 4:44 pm |

    Say it loud, I’m Irish black and I’m proud

  11. drew458
    Posted March 18, 2017 at 10:06 am |

    Thanks for that link on Irish slavery. I had no idea. I knew about the press gangs for the sailors, I knew about indentured servitude. I had no idea of actual white slavery. But as is often the case, that certain types love to overlook, slavery and worker abuse outside of the American colonies was far, far worse and much larger than what went on here, starting with evil Columbus and going on until Brazil finally ended slavery nearly 24 years after the USA did.

  12. drew458
    Posted March 18, 2017 at 11:29 am |

    Can anyone find this Proclamation of 1625 online? I can’t, but I can find plenty of articles that hotly “de-bunk” the whole business, because of a typo (James “II” wasn’t born until 1633, so he didn’t issue this Proclamation if it existed; either James I or Charles I would be king in 1625) and the white wash of the indentured concept. However, all these 1625 stories trace back to one guy, a book by Herbert Byrd. There was Cromwell and his ethnic cleansing, there was the Plantation Act, the Settlement of Ireland of 1652 Act, and the “Connaught or Hell” proclamation of May 1 1654. All of which point towards transportation and enslavement. But i can’t find the 1625 document. Help?

  13. jlw
    Posted March 18, 2017 at 1:04 pm |

    @ drew458

    does this help?

    not the actual proclamation, but a summary, kind of:
    https://mediachecker.wordpress.com/2014/04/01/irish-slavery/

  14. jlw
    Posted March 18, 2017 at 2:03 pm |

    @ drew458

    i dug further and i suspect that you already had what i posted above. not really any help. i did find an archive in california that lists the proclamations from 1609 to 1783. the only three for 1625 had to do with tobacco. i also checked the Byrd book. he doesn’t even list the proclamation in the references. strange.

    i wasn’t any help, sorry

  15. drew458
    Posted March 18, 2017 at 3:39 pm |

    That’s my point JLW. Many places mention the thing, but nobody seems to have a copy. I even found a list of all royal proclamations made by the Tudor kings, and it wasn’t there either. So is it BS? And if it is BS, does the rest of the tale then fall apart?

    There are many who want the entire slavery story to be how whitey abused them po po Afrikanz in the USA. And how it was a unique and special thing, because no other kind of slavery anywhere ever was generational. And this is simply not true. Treating lifelong, generational, Indentured Servitude as some kind of happy picnic because one “i” was not dotted or “t” crossed is disingenuous at best.

    The virulence of the English Catholic vs Protestant conflict seems unhinged by today’s “civilized” standards, and that embarrassment gets swept under the rug of history. But it was real. Add the takeover of Ireland to the mix, a people who did not want to be ruled by outsiders even if they lost to them on the battlefields, and you get the horrors visited on them. And as I mentioned earlier, the blind eye that history in the USA turns towards anything south of Florida.

    When murder of a certain kind of people is no crime, when they can be stolen off the street and sold into bondage, when working them and abusing them till death is an accepted business practice, when using as sex toys and breeding them for market is commonplace … then you’ve got slavery. It’s not just A Black Thing. But it hurts those little community organizer’s feeeeelings to accept that negro slavery in the New World only gained a foothold as the third iteration; first the natives, then the Irish (or any Catholic available), and then the Africans. They were cost prohibitive as a business model; higher up front costs, higher shipping costs, and less of an ROI because they received better care to protect that investment. Oooh, that must just gall them no end, so let’s bury it and deny it. And ignore that in the islands and Spanish colonies it was far worse and far bigger. And ignore the reality of what went on in Africa, tribes selling tribes and the whole Arab aspect, to the point today that the slave trader Swahili language is idolized as Authentic African, and the Islamic faith is largest among the Black Community. Of course, they just love pimps and hos too, which is a kind of modern slavery. It just don’t figure.

  16. mech
    Posted March 19, 2017 at 12:50 pm |

    Neal- Fellow New Mexican Porch denizen!

    Contact me so’s we can get a beverage sometime soon. If you are in the big city, we could meet at Monk’s Corner.

  17. mech
    Posted March 19, 2017 at 12:51 pm |

    Oh, and “Black Olives Matter”

  18. accipiterNW
    Posted March 19, 2017 at 5:50 pm |

    I missed St Patrick’s Day. Been recovering from International Greek Day aka Pi Day. Damn Ouzo hit me hard. (Jk)