ToDaZeD Classic Vocabulary

what’s that word….?????

That Rooski word for destroying a country by intentionally creating doubt in the people that there is actually any way whatsoever for them to learn the facts of what is going on.

Also that word for the Useless Tools who create Chaos to amuse themselves…
[aside from well-meaning pinheaded anarchist crank or little emasculated mass of inanity…]

[WaPo] President Trump shared highly classified information with Russian government officials during an Oval Office meeting…

whaaaa???

How would the WaPo know that? They know classified info? They were there?

[National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster] At no time, at no time, were intelligence sources or methods discussed and the president did not disclose any military operations that were not already publicly known,” McMaster said in a press conference Monday evening.

“The record should outweigh the anonymous sources. I was in the room. It didn’t happen,”

huh?

[Secretary of State Rex Tillerson] “During that exchange the nature of specific threats were discussed, but they did not discuss sources, methods or military operations,”

erm…

Specifically, [Trump] is said to have described the details of an Islamic State threat related to the use of laptop computers on aircraft. The information itself was reportedly provided by a close Middle Eastern ally.

wait…. I heard about that on the nooz…
*I* heard about that on the nooz

Intelligence officials are usually very careful not to reveal “sources and methods” — the sources of information, and the methods used to collect it. This is for obvious reasons. If the identity of a person who was the source of clandestine information is revealed, then that person’s life could be put at risk. Similarly, if the methods used to gather information secretly are revealed, then adversaries may be able to protect against them in the future. This is why people have been asking whether the president compromised the sources and methods used to collect the intelligence he shared.

“asking” …

BTNIN

So now no one — No. One. — knows who, what or how to believe…


The word is Kompromat
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14 Comments!

  1. Blake
    Posted May 16, 2017 at 7:26 am |

    SoS Clinton leaked classified information everywhere. Press: Yawn.

    And we’re supposed to believe the Media, who loathes President Trump, when they claim the President gave out classified material to Russia.

    The same media who keeps flogging the “Russians stole the election” lie.

  2. DougM (flawed)
    Posted May 16, 2017 at 8:42 am |

    Claire,
    I think the word you’re looking for is disinformation (dezinformatsiya дезинформация).

    Used to be that the commie-lovin’ press avoided mentioning its existence as a Soviet strategy against the West.
    Now, it’s all dezinformatsiya-this and dezinformatsiya-that with the Russians and Trump.

  3. Posted May 16, 2017 at 8:45 am |

    Somewhere in the White House wood pile there resides a……Oh never mind.

  4. JimB
    Posted May 16, 2017 at 9:07 am |

    ” disinformation (dezinformatsiya дезинформация).” MSM has adopted it as their own.

  5. Blake
    Posted May 16, 2017 at 11:09 am |

    MSM has always admired Communism so I guess it stands to reason they would become Pravda West.

  6. Posted May 16, 2017 at 11:34 am |

    I’m not sure of the noun, but the verb for doing it is “Abu Ghraibing“.
    The NY Times perfected the method publishing a front-page, above the fold story every day for more than a month about Abu Ghraib.
    None of the stories gave you any new information, or even any information, all they did was talk about how the World Was Weeping Over Bush’ Illegal War For Oil!!!!!!!!!!!

  7. Claire: rebellious pink pig with car keys - and a *cause*
    Posted May 16, 2017 at 12:44 pm |

    DM. I thot there was a really specific word for the campaign to undermine credibility in media and .gov…?

    yanno, If I had a memory, I could be quite interesting…
    *shuffles off kicking dust*

  8. dick, not quite dead white guy
    Posted May 16, 2017 at 1:36 pm |

    I found it ironic (the MSM and their moron followers don’t do irony) that the WAPo had the gall to ask for a transcript of the meeting where, according to them, highly classified information was discussed.
    How and when did they get their Top Secret (Yankee White) clearances?
    Buraq….Oh.

  9. Posted May 16, 2017 at 2:49 pm |

    According to Drudge, the wapo “staff” or traitorous vermin (whichever you prefer) cheered with this latest hit on the President. And they wonder why the American People absolutely despise them and wish ill will upon them – for real.

  10. DougM (flawed)
    Posted May 16, 2017 at 2:54 pm |

    Claire ^7
    Y’mean “active measures,” the Soviet political warfare doctrine?
    It included all subversive political activities: disinformation, propaganda, counterfeiting official documents, assassinations, political repression, the establishment and support of international front organizations, foreign communist, socialist and opposition parties, wars of national liberation, and underground, revolutionary, insurgency, criminal, and terrorist groups.

    Also loosely associated is maskirovka, military deception.

  11. drew458
    Posted May 16, 2017 at 7:16 pm |

    maskirovka, yes, that was the term. I think I learned it from reading Tom Clancy novels many years ago. I was thinking “peristroika”, but knew that wasn’t it.

    How times change! Used to know a fair number of words in Russian. Forgotten most. Now I now several dozen Arabic ones. Know your enemy, I guess.

  12. Claire: rebellious pink pig with car keys - and a *cause*
    Posted May 17, 2017 at 7:42 am |

    Found it! I was looking for Kompromat

    …as discussed here

    Also here [NYT]:

    In fact, kompromat is more than an individual piece of damaging information: It is a broader attempt to manufacture public cynicism and confusion in ways that target not just one individual but an entire society.

    …Specific leaks may take aim at powerful individuals, but in the longer term, kompromat serves the interests of the powerful, which is why it is often a tool of autocrats. By eroding the very idea of a shared reality, and by spreading apathy and confusion among a public that learns to distrust leaders and institutions alike, kompromat undermines a society’s ability to hold the powerful to account and ensure the proper functioning of government.

    …Kompromat is “a very cheap and easy way for the regime to demonstrate its power, and to harass people in a very visible way,”…

    That was a danger and a deterrent for the young activists she spoke to. But individual targets of kompromat are not its only victims, Professor Pearce said. It also harms society by diminishing public trust.

    … “often deliberately blended accurate and forged details” to sow distrust and confusion.

    Public trust [can become] so eroded that lies were equally capable of destroying the honest and rehabilitating the criminal.

    And what do people do?

    “There’s no reliable truth to rest upon,” … “Every piece of information you get is ‘possibly true, possibly false.’”

    Degrading that trust can be deeply damaging. [People] saw the world through a lens that I began to call the “prudent hypothetical.” They reacted to all information, whether from official sources or thirdhand rumors, as if it might be true. I came to realize that it was a self-protective impulse, a way to prepare for any potential outcome in an unpredictable, unreliable world.

    …But they were also careful not to rely on that information, lest it turn out to be a fabrication. They trusted only the facts they had verified themselves, and only the people to whom they had close personal ties.

    To smear a president, undermine a judge or sow distrust in an institution or process, all someone needs to do is create a set of documents salacious enough to attract discussion, persuade some corner of the web to publish them and then wait for the resulting controversy [or MSM blood-in-the-water feeding frenzy -- e~C] to be reported as news.

    …“there was no such thing as truth, only a battle of opinions proffered by different actors, each of whom strives to be loudest.”

    sound familiar?
    Teh Iron is Strong in this one….

  13. DougM (flawed)
    Posted May 17, 2017 at 1:12 pm |

    ^ Ahhhh, thanks for that.
    [fires librarian]

  14. TN Volunteer
    Posted May 17, 2017 at 5:13 pm |

    ….the rabbit hole just got bigger and deeper!