Gun control is about control…

…but it’s not about controlling guns or violence,
it’s about employing the instances of guns and violence to hype the principle that it’s an enlightened, expertise-run government’s job to control our beliefs and behavior, ultimately by the use of their guns and violence.

[Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said] “I think it is time for us to have a conversation about what the right to bear arms means in the modern world. I don’t understand why civilians need to have access to military weapons.

Clubs, spears, swords, bows, and flintlocks were once alpha military weapons, too.

We wouldn’t say you can go out and buy a tank. So, I do think we need to have that conversation.

Maybe we should, since you can buy a tank. It’s the explosive ammo that’s illegal.
(*pssst* Frikkin’ flame throwers are not banned by the Feds, either, but might be in your state.)

But I believe that the rights that we have in the Constitution are indivisible. We can’t throw away the 2nd Amendment and keep the 1st.”

(see also: “unalienable” and “not be infringed”)

Rice also … stated she would not be armed as a teacher. … “I don’t really like the idea, frankly, of a gun in my classroom. I think that we need to have law enforcement protect us.

Well, after the Broward Sheriff fiasco, that argument no longer holds water.
While the cops are outside or on their way, the staff and students are on their own and defenseless.
That’s always been the point.

Look, if people need to train people to protect our schools, and perhaps even communities want to consider whether or not they need guards to protect the schools, it’s a sad thing to think that we might, then that’s something that we should look at. But I don’t think that just arming people in the classroom is going to be the answer.

I’m puzzled as to how an armed guard differs from an armed citizen-teacher, here.
No reason teachers shouldn’t get tactical training to supplement their CCH weapons/legal training.

I will say this, Hugh. We also have to get better at intelligence, when it is a domestic issue. Clearly, with this young man, there were all kinds of signs and signals, and all kinds of information that he was a problem.”

Better intel? Better friggin’ intel?!
F’cryin’outloud, Cruz was a textbook red flag.
Intel wasn’t the problem; WILL was the problem.
Prog politicians and public servants do. not. have. the. will. to. fight!

(What? Nah, we’ll save a discussion of why that’s the case for another time.)

Yayyy! Picked up by Pookie’s Toons

Sure SWAT and the HRT would be nice;
but until they get there, returning fire is the best way to save innocent lives.

Veeshir comment

This probably deserves its own post, but I wanted to get it up here ASAP. Dick & Dave comments

Also, these cops were the professionals, the heroes.

(What? Of course incompetent leadership can get worse!)


  1. Posted February 24, 2018 at 3:25 pm |

    The point isn’t to have teachers fighting armed invaders, it’s to get rid of the Gun ‘Free’ Zone bs where armed murderers know they’ll have plenty of time as the only one with a gun.
    But we can’t have an honest conversation about anything anymore.

  2. Posted February 24, 2018 at 6:25 pm |

    An armed guard doesn’t differ significantly from an armed teacher, in my view. You haven’t lived until you get a midnight call because a muskOx got loose from a nearby zoo and show up to find the animal in a parking lot, with armed security guards, weapons drawn, standing on each side. They had a better chance of shooting each other than injuring the animal.

  3. Fawkes News (Make Gun Control Great Again)
    Posted February 24, 2018 at 7:30 pm |

    But raising the gun buying age to 21 is apparently the Miracle Cure™.

  4. TN Volunteer
    Posted February 24, 2018 at 8:02 pm |

    ….Ms. Rice, the road to Hell is paved with good intentions!

  5. MikeAZ
    Posted February 25, 2018 at 6:55 am |

    Ms. Rice, the question to ask, simply, is “What if just one person was to shoot back during one of these episodes?” Probably wouldn’t have had to kill the bad guy, not even hit him; just close enough that he heard someone shooting back?

    These actors want to kill, not to die. They are cowards, and they will turn tail and run if they even think someone might resist.

  6. Posted February 25, 2018 at 7:48 am |

    We wouldn’t say you can go out and buy a tank. So, I do think we need to have that conversation.

    If the SHTF, and my community has gangs of marauders out pillaging and killing in groups of 30 or 40, why wouldn’t i want a tank? Why shouldn’t i have a tank?

  7. dick, not quite dead white guy
    Posted February 25, 2018 at 8:19 am |

    The County Board should have a conversation about Mr. Peterson’s pension, and the continuing employ of Sheriff Israel and others who shirked their duty.

    Part of the blame lies with the melanin enhanced school superintendent, a Democrat, who adopted a policy a few years ago in collusion cooperation with the sheriff to reduce the number of incidents and arrests of county students, by demanding suggesting the sheriff not reporting calls when officers responded to school incidents involving misbehaving (or worse) students, which one has to assume were melanin-enhanced as well. He then bragged about how “his” schools were improving under his leadership and no doubt asked for a raise. He gets more Fed money that way too.
    The whole thing is rotten, government caused disaster.

  8. Glenda the Good
    Posted February 25, 2018 at 9:50 am |

    Besides the obvious failures regarding the tragedy in Florida, we are debating the second amendment and also about arming teachers and staff.

    To Former Sec. Rice, citizens do not own ‘military weapons’ as their are definite distinctions between legal civilian firearms and military. Military assault firearms are capable of discharging at a rate that civilian weapons are totally incapable of.
    As an aside, if you are afraid of guns it is OK to admit it.

    To the issue of arming school staff, I suggest we leave it up to the states and school districts to determine their best course of action. I doubt that any decision at the federal level is workable anyways. The idea of Gun Free zones is an attempt to solve a problem by making the target easier to attack. Stupid, and sponsored by Clueless Joe Biden too!

    The barrage of anti NRA and Gun banning conversation immediately after the event is just a smoke screen in an effort to hide the facts that this was entirely and completely preventable. If the clues were road signs they would be 100 feet high and a quarter mile wide telling you that Cruz was dangerous.

  9. Dave
    Posted February 25, 2018 at 10:01 am |

    Here is a link to what Dick referred to.

  10. DougM (μολὼν λαβέ)
    Posted February 25, 2018 at 10:53 am |

    Dick ^7 Dave ^
    Thanks for that.
    Now if you’ll excuse me for a minute,
    I’m gonna go lean over the edge of my deck and puke.

  11. MikeAZ
    Posted February 25, 2018 at 12:49 pm |

    While I would not rule out cowardice if just one law officer failed to confront an armed criminal in the act of committing capital murder. But we now know that at least four sworn deputies took positions of cover and failed to act proactively in the most critical moments of this incident. That smacks of deliberate training (wait for back-up, What? By the 82nd Airborne?) or a politically based policy (whatever you do, don’t upset the easily butt-hurt snowflakes.)

    Either way, those involved should not be allowed a quick and quiet exit to oblivion and a pension. Innocent people dies as a result of their inaction, and legal consequences are on the horizon. Sue the school and district, the law enforcement agencies involved, and the individuals who sought safety when they might have saved lives.

  12. Dave
    Posted February 25, 2018 at 3:11 pm |

    ^ I would agree on the pension as long as they get sued and lose it.

  13. Claire: rebellious pink pig with car keys - and a *cause*
    Posted February 26, 2018 at 8:22 am |

    Interesting how they are trying to otherize those who carry/use guns. “They should surround and protect us.”

    Will the rest of that sentence become, “…protect us from others like them?

    And when ya have the “intel,” what do ya DO with it? How many kinda weird hi skool kids do ya put in involuntary “mental health kare”? How ‘kinda weird’ to they have to be? Yes, this kid was coo-coo nuts [technical term] but how far do we want to go in the direction of involuntary “mental health kare” for those considered “odd”? …or “out of step”?

    Or shall we just put the burden of self-protection back where it belongs?

  14. Claire: rebellious pink pig with car keys - and a *cause*
    Posted February 26, 2018 at 8:25 am |

    Oh Criminny. I just heard that Ivanka [kakak] demands we have “super-high qualifications” for any people carrying in skools.

    Why, dear? Do you think most teachers are just waiting – nay, lusting – to take those guns and mow down the students?

    Does that reflect the inside of your head much?

  15. DougM (μολὼν λαβέ)
    Posted February 26, 2018 at 10:49 am |

    ^ Super high? Nay, ULTRA high!

    see previous cartoon:

  16. OldFert
    Posted February 26, 2018 at 11:08 am |

    Condy needs to spend some time at the range.

  17. rickn8or
    Posted February 26, 2018 at 12:27 pm |

    Oh, FFS. Another “expert” heard from.

    Claire, remember what a Charley-Foxtrot the Federal Flight Deck Officer Program turned into with all it’s emphasis on over-qualifications for a simple task?