I bet the Dems in general and BHO in particular are getting really tired of Arizona. Expect more bad federal things to happen to the good folks there soon.
[....pausing for meditation....]
Y’know, I ain’t no birther. And I think it’s not a good thing for conservatives to pursue. It would be better to vote him out the old fashioned way. We don’t need a constitutional crisis, nor do we need a large segment of the population deciding that the constitution might as well be ignored at will (more than they already are, I mean)…
…but with all that said, two observations:
1) I’m no expert, but to me the documents produced scream “forgery,” which is an odd thing. If he was really born in Hawaii, why not just produce copies of real documents? Don’t they exist?
2) There doesn’t seem to be anything, and I do mean anything, about this guy that doesn’t seem like a fraud, or at least have a really odd ring to it. What’s up with that?
I’m not even being partisan here. Like I said, the thing to do is vote him out the usual way, or else we may weaken faith in our institutions. But wow, this is a very strange man….
(Oh, and I just wonder if maybe during his years in education he might have been posing as a foreign student, and getting some scholarships, or privileges or something based on this. Kind of like Harvard’s white Indian. If so, it would look kind of bad if this came out before the election.)
(Going forward, ever state ought to have a clear birth verification procedure built into both the primary and general election candidate registration process; but the thing now is to clean up the current mess as neatly as possible.)
Comment by Ironic in Denver — May 20, 2012 @ 3:42 pm
Doug, I forgot to mention what a nice ‘shop that is.
Who’s that in the photo, Atia of the Julii?
(as in Rome, the HBO series)
If so, it’s an off day for her in the looks department, though perhaps dead-on in character….
[*okay, that wasn't nice -- slaps my own face*]
Comment by Ironic in Denver — May 20, 2012 @ 5:17 pm
Fix bayonets. Guard the ballot boxes and voting machines with your life. Nobody so much as touches them without at least two people present from each party. Volunteer to be a poll watcher and don’t let party hacks from either party deny you with their usual “Pooh pooh, nothing to worry about.”
Nobody votes without photo ID and if i had my druthers, purple dye on the finger after voting.
The Uhbamunists will do anything to win. Anything. It’s up to us to stop them.
Comment by dick, not quite dead white guy — May 20, 2012 @ 7:10 pm
They cheated in the last Presidential primary, why not this one?
The problem is, they have control of the DOJ so they can’t be prosecuted. But after a Republican takes over, they wouldn’t be so *impolitic* as to prosecute their predecessor… so the Dems virtually always get away with it.
It’s so far beyond sickening it’s hard to describe.
Comment by Claire: pink pig barbarian, etc — May 20, 2012 @ 11:15 pm
scream “forgery,” “U.K.L. Lee” hm…
“It would be better to vote him out the old fashioned way. …nor do we need a large segment of the population deciding that the constitution might as well be ignored at will.”
And another way to look at it might be that to ignore such a blatant “F.U.” of a “proof” would be to ignore the Constitution…. The “mess”, while painful, might be worth holding that line.
during his years in education he might have been posing as a foreign student Exotic Indian/Kenyan, one each, On Sale Today!
“clean up the current mess as neatly as possible” Leaving a lump under The Carpet of History the size of a tipped-over Guam.
hm… I seem to have come all over peckish and somewhat cranky. My apologies. Maybe I best get a bite and have a nice lie-down…
Comment by Claire: pink pig barbarian, etc — May 20, 2012 @ 11:24 pm
Nah, Claire, you’re good. I though about those things too, and I could easily argue that side of it. You could be right, and I am so very tired of seeing the naves, frauds, and blackguards* getting away with it.
One of the problems is that these assholes keep getting away with it, partly, as Merovign points out, because Republicans are much too nice and civilized to prosecute them.
I don’t know, I think there’s a good chance I’m right, but there’s a good chance I’m wrong.
And like it or not, the damned near impervious shield of the race card comes into play here. How’d our society ever evolve from “guilty by virtue of being black” to “innocent by virtue of being black?” Wouldn’t it be grand to have a color blind society & justice system? But it appears we don’t; just not in the way the progs claim we don’t.
The nations best bet may be to investigate, hound and prosecute the enablers of the current administration, many of whom could be proved to not have the plausible deniability of the guys on top. It might cut down on this kind of thing in the future if enablers had more to worry about. Uh… okay, I might have said that somewhere already, so I’m going to quit here.
Anyhow, Claire, I did not take your remarks askance, either in tone or content.
*NO GODDAMMIT!!! “Blackguard is *NOT* a racist term! Jezz!!
Comment by Ironic in Denver — May 21, 2012 @ 2:49 pm
Oh by the way:
Leaving a lump under The Carpet of History the size of a tipped-over Guam.
Now that is an awesome turn of phrase.
Comment by Ironic in Denver — May 21, 2012 @ 2:51 pm
When do the statutes of limitations for felonious fraud expire in the States where Obama went to school?
If he really claimed to be a foreigner to get scholarships, but he was actually a US citizen, then …
Okay, I’ll take “Impeach Him Either Way” for $400, Alex.
Comment by DougM (jackassophobe) — May 22, 2012 @ 12:45 pm
^ Yeah. See, that’s sorta where I’m going. I think that a rigorous investigation of some of his claims (and what he got from them) might possibly have him in a no-win-no-win situation, where his endless lies catch up with him and he’s in hot water no matter which way he hops….
…the bottom line, including all that “born in Kenya” stuff that was around well into the last decade, is that he will say absolutely anything, the only really certain thing is that it’s not likely to be the truth, and that there may be actual felonies involved.
Comment by Ironic in Denver — May 22, 2012 @ 8:38 pm