Comment by DougM (November is coming) — July 5, 2012 @ 6:25 am
I lost over 20 pounds eating a high fat diet. My head is clearer and my emotional state is much steadier since I switched to high fat. For breakfast this morning I just ate an egg baked with heavy cream, cheese, and bacon. Coffee with coconut milk. I’ve had more fat by 7am than most people do all day.
Patrick,
I’m thinkin’ you’re right.
Been on near-zero carbs & sugars for a couple’a months.
Twenty pounds down and falling. No hunger, no fatigue.
Breakfast: bacon, sausage & cheese omelet, coffee & V8.
Lunch: usually not needed, maybe some hard sausage*
Dinner: some kind’a meat (beef, pork, fish), maybe a biiig chef’s salad (lettuce, bleu cheese dressing, egg slices, meat cubes, S&P, maybe a tomato. (might try some butter spray tonight)
(What? Well, there’s not muchSpam lettuce in it.)
Not only that, but meal prep is a snap.
It’s restaurants that are hard.
Hunh, just noticed. No squirrels here at the new digs.
I’ll have to work on that.
Need a new skinnin’ board and fire spit, too.
* Quit giggling, I mean hard Italian, bratwurst, Polish, etc. Something sinewy requiring a toothpick afterward.
Comment by DougM (November is coming) — July 5, 2012 @ 8:29 am
If anyone is a nutrition hobbyist like me you’ll love “Nourishing Traditions”… it also demonstrates how NOT to defer to your government for nutritional guidelines. For example, the war on fats. Fats were demonized back awhile and removed from many foods and replaced with sugar…hence creating fat addicted unhealthy sugar fiends…
Comment by sondrak on a tablet at the asylum — July 5, 2012 @ 8:40 am
I heard that the number of Alzhiemers cases rose along with the low cholesterol diets and the drugs that lower your cholesterol count.
My grandparents’ (Mom’s parents) diet was loaded with fat (homemade gravy, pies made with lard, etc.), but they were thin people and both lived into their late 90′s with few health problems. As a result, I don’t believe that fat is a dietary evil.
They worked outside most of the time, so they got a lot of daily exercise (except on Sunday – Grandma was a granite butt about that whole “resting on Sunday” thing, which I hated). They also had a huge garden and several fruit trees, so the eating was good at their house. I miss Grandma’s cooking. :(
I’m taking lipitor; my mother has Altzheimer’s. I wonder if that’s a good combination. The trouble is, medical science has correlated strokes and heart attack with “bad’ ratios of good/bad cholesterol. But I strongly doubt that they considered Altzheimer’s along with it. So now we have drugs to lower bad cholesterol, but we don’t know, and won’t know the long term effects of taking them for decades, when all those class-action lawsuits will kick in, and the trial lawyers will get rich on the pharmaceutical companies for trying to help us on the bad advice of the researchers. Now, with ObamaTax, government will be able to mandate that we take these nasty drugs, or risk losing our health care, or pay penalties. Nice setup we have here.
Just heat up some bacon grease and pour it over the lettuce. Better tasting and easier. Salt and pepper to taste….eat it before it cools too much and solidifies….
My favorite dressing as of now is a chipotle ranch. It has a little zing but mostly smooth.
I was listening to a health show on the radio where the vegan wife was calling back after the host convinced her to try her husband’s “diet” of meat, potatoes and veggies. She didn’t understand how her husband had all this energy and was lean and trim while, although her weight was good, she had no energy, stomach trouble, and all around felt bad.
After eating like her husband for two weeks, she felt great.
I usta take a head of lettuce from the garden, remove the big outer leaves, rinse it, slice it up into about4-5 pieces (…piece looked like a slice of watermellon in shape)—–and then spread mayonnaise on both sides, and eat it outa my hand………… Simple, larripin good! Us kids always had one of them little Morton salt skakers in our jean pockets and would pull a great big red tomato off the vine, put it in the tractor tool box and later eat it, like an apple, when we stopped at a shade tree where we had our iced water thermos`s keepin cool…..
Comment by Colonel Jerry USMC — July 5, 2012 @ 10:52 am
Paladin, there’s a vegan in our office who is sickly and tired all the time. A steak with a side of bacon would change her life.
Fat = brain development and proper growth in babies/children. The are “healthy eating” parents out their that have done serious developmental harm to their children by placing them on low/no fat diets (starting as far back as the 70′s). I always found it odd that people could recognize that fact, but not continue the logic that it would be helpful in later years for brain function and muscle development.
Regarding the fats “unlocking” the vitamins, I think most in the science community have understood the connection for a long time. Unfortunately the real science doesn’t always get out. It’s much easier to sell “eating fat = body fat” then “eating fat = better muscles/brain congnative function” I noticed recently manufactured dressings have started printing the connection of fat/vitamins on their bottling.
“I heard that the number of Alzhiemers cases rose along with the low cholesterol diets and the drugs that lower your cholesterol count.”
Geezerette – do you have a link to info on this? My grandmother has early signs of Alzhiemers (the kids just took her car away because she doesn’t remember short term things) She eats like a bird (almost no fat) and now I’m wondering if she is on these meds.
PatrickP, I work with a vegetarian. Her doctor has told her that she isn’t taking in enough calories, and the calories she does take in don’t provide her with enough protein or amino acids.
I really think that the best advice is to have a variety in the diet, with not too much sugar, and less TV, Playstation, and facebook.
1 lb. of large strawberries
8-oz. pkg. cream cheese
1 tsp. vanilla
4 tbsp. powdered sugar
graham cracker crumbs
Wash and core strawberries. Blend softened cream cheese with vanilla and powdered sugar. Use a spatula to fill the cored strawberries with the cream cheese mix. Dip cream-cheese end of strawberry in graham cracker crumbs. Chill.
Of course, they are even better with chocolate drizzled over the top.
Been olive oil and wine vinegar for me for years. And fresh lemon juice with a bit of salt and pepper.
Also the good seasons Italian mix which is the same with more spices.
Funny how fewer restaurants have oil and vinegar–they have to look for it after a blank look with tilted head then the bottles have sticky dust on ‘em. Thanks, i’ll have the ranch, please.
I always have the a.m. talk radio station on when in the car– in the morning the Lets Play Doctor Doctor is on– he’s who I heard explaining the Importance of fats in our diet and does not believe in statins. Of course he’s selling his product at the same time and wants the listeners to sell it. Sooo ya got that there–but much of what he says makes sense. I wonder what you gain by taking statins and having to go in every 6mo.s for blood tests to make sure your liver/and all the other things are n’t affected. My parents/grandparents never worried about all this crap and lived a long life–90 and 92 years. My fathers sister lived to be 100. If we eat carrots we’re still going to die—- moderation in everything — you’ll die at 90 of a gun shot from a jealous husband/wife.
Colonel Jerry, that’s good living right there.
I grew up the same way, along with snarfing rhubarb, strawberries, onions, and peppers right where they grew. I wasn’t a fan of the beans and I found it to be the cruelest of punishments to weed and pick the beans I disliked so much.
I hate summer, but being able to to pick a big red mater from the garden and eat it on the spot almost makes up for the heat and bugs.
The Lets Play Doctor Doctor isn’t the only one I’ve heard discuss the cholesterol problem. My own Doctor isn’t that worried about it — ’cause mine is high– eat the same as the Mr. and his is low– have a cousin who’s 90lbs soaking wet who lives on fast food and hers is the same as mine I never eat fast food and very seldom eat in a restaurant. I’m NOT 90 lbs– My own Doc. says as long as I walk every day and keep busy keep eating in moderation like I do not to worry– I’ve tried the meds and react to them all.
“You have 2 million-odd years of evolution telling you ‘fat is good, fat means you don’t have to keep scratching around looking for food’. Against that, what the hell is Weight Watchers?”
mojo: There’s something to be said about that theory – but nowadays we don’t have to go out and bring down mastodons or run after antelope, eat our fill and hope we get another one in a week or so.
I think the real problem is that people are so completely different from one another that any regimen that works well for Mr A is going to be disastrous for Ms B.
That’s one of the reasons there are so many psychological therapies. Freud and EST worked great for many people – for a while at least – but were utter failures for many others. Some people even seem to do well with Scientology (having lots of money gets you further up the ladder). Some people do really well as day-traders, others go broke before quitting time. And so on.
The problem is that there doesn’t seem to be a way of telling exactly what sort of biological system anyone is.
So the solution is probably, do what works for you. If it doesn’t work, do something else.
ZZMike, exactly I’ve got some “fun” digestive/GI issues that massively effect what I can/can’t eat. If I tried being a vegitarian I would be extremely unhealthy, my system can’t handle any of their “alternative” types of protein. I can’t do most dairy, caffeine, or cook with animal fats, or mixed veg oils (I can only use real butter or olive oil).
Sounds delicious,
but why the lettuce?
Comment by DougM (November is coming) — July 5, 2012 @ 6:25 am
I lost over 20 pounds eating a high fat diet. My head is clearer and my emotional state is much steadier since I switched to high fat. For breakfast this morning I just ate an egg baked with heavy cream, cheese, and bacon. Coffee with coconut milk. I’ve had more fat by 7am than most people do all day.
Don’t believe the low fat lie!
Comment by PatrickP — July 5, 2012 @ 6:55 am
*Eggs not AN egg.
Comment by PatrickP — July 5, 2012 @ 6:56 am
What if it’s all been a big fat lie?
Comment by PatrickP — July 5, 2012 @ 7:59 am
Patrick,
I’m thinkin’ you’re right.
Been on near-zero carbs & sugars for a couple’a months.
Twenty pounds down and falling. No hunger, no fatigue.
Breakfast: bacon, sausage & cheese omelet, coffee & V8.
Lunch: usually not needed, maybe some hard sausage*
Dinner: some kind’a meat (beef, pork, fish), maybe a biiig chef’s salad (lettuce, bleu cheese dressing, egg slices, meat cubes, S&P, maybe a tomato. (might try some butter spray tonight)
(What? Well, there’s not much
Spamlettuce in it.)Not only that, but meal prep is a snap.
It’s restaurants that are hard.
Hunh, just noticed. No squirrels here at the new digs.
I’ll have to work on that.
Need a new skinnin’ board and fire spit, too.
* Quit giggling, I mean hard Italian, bratwurst, Polish, etc. Something sinewy requiring a toothpick afterward.
Comment by DougM (November is coming) — July 5, 2012 @ 8:29 am
If anyone is a nutrition hobbyist like me you’ll love “Nourishing Traditions”… it also demonstrates how NOT to defer to your government for nutritional guidelines. For example, the war on fats. Fats were demonized back awhile and removed from many foods and replaced with sugar…hence creating fat addicted unhealthy sugar fiends…
Comment by sondrak on a tablet at the asylum — July 5, 2012 @ 8:40 am
I heard that the number of Alzhiemers cases rose along with the low cholesterol diets and the drugs that lower your cholesterol count.
Comment by geezerette — July 5, 2012 @ 8:44 am
My grandparents’ (Mom’s parents) diet was loaded with fat (homemade gravy, pies made with lard, etc.), but they were thin people and both lived into their late 90′s with few health problems. As a result, I don’t believe that fat is a dietary evil.
They worked outside most of the time, so they got a lot of daily exercise (except on Sunday – Grandma was a granite butt about that whole “resting on Sunday” thing, which I hated). They also had a huge garden and several fruit trees, so the eating was good at their house. I miss Grandma’s cooking. :(
Comment by PeggyU — July 5, 2012 @ 9:19 am
I’m taking lipitor; my mother has Altzheimer’s. I wonder if that’s a good combination. The trouble is, medical science has correlated strokes and heart attack with “bad’ ratios of good/bad cholesterol. But I strongly doubt that they considered Altzheimer’s along with it. So now we have drugs to lower bad cholesterol, but we don’t know, and won’t know the long term effects of taking them for decades, when all those class-action lawsuits will kick in, and the trial lawyers will get rich on the pharmaceutical companies for trying to help us on the bad advice of the researchers. Now, with ObamaTax, government will be able to mandate that we take these nasty drugs, or risk losing our health care, or pay penalties. Nice setup we have here.
Comment by Karl Uppiano — July 5, 2012 @ 9:20 am
Lettuce,bacon,tom.,with butter dressing!!!
Comment by geezerette — July 5, 2012 @ 9:21 am
Just heat up some bacon grease and pour it over the lettuce. Better tasting and easier. Salt and pepper to taste….eat it before it cools too much and solidifies….
Kentucky hillbillies been doing this for ages…
Comment by joe — July 5, 2012 @ 9:26 am
Just fried up some bacon for with honey cinnamon pancakes and made xtra for blts later. Now I’m gonna save the grease for dinner salad!
Comment by sondrak on a tablet at the asylum — July 5, 2012 @ 9:40 am
OT, but food related – followed a link from PrimordialSlack to watch these advertisements. Too funny not to share.
Comment by PeggyU — July 5, 2012 @ 10:30 am
My favorite dressing as of now is a chipotle ranch. It has a little zing but mostly smooth.
I was listening to a health show on the radio where the vegan wife was calling back after the host convinced her to try her husband’s “diet” of meat, potatoes and veggies. She didn’t understand how her husband had all this energy and was lean and trim while, although her weight was good, she had no energy, stomach trouble, and all around felt bad.
After eating like her husband for two weeks, she felt great.
Comment by Paladin — July 5, 2012 @ 10:31 am
I usta take a head of lettuce from the garden, remove the big outer leaves, rinse it, slice it up into about4-5 pieces (…piece looked like a slice of watermellon in shape)—–and then spread mayonnaise on both sides, and eat it outa my hand………… Simple, larripin good! Us kids always had one of them little Morton salt skakers in our jean pockets and would pull a great big red tomato off the vine, put it in the tractor tool box and later eat it, like an apple, when we stopped at a shade tree where we had our iced water thermos`s keepin cool…..
Comment by Colonel Jerry USMC — July 5, 2012 @ 10:52 am
Paladin, there’s a vegan in our office who is sickly and tired all the time. A steak with a side of bacon would change her life.
Comment by PatrickP — July 5, 2012 @ 10:55 am
Hot bacon dressing with spinach—and what evah else you want to put in the bowl— ah yes!!!
Comment by geezerette — July 5, 2012 @ 11:21 am
Fat = brain development and proper growth in babies/children. The are “healthy eating” parents out their that have done serious developmental harm to their children by placing them on low/no fat diets (starting as far back as the 70′s). I always found it odd that people could recognize that fact, but not continue the logic that it would be helpful in later years for brain function and muscle development.
Regarding the fats “unlocking” the vitamins, I think most in the science community have understood the connection for a long time. Unfortunately the real science doesn’t always get out. It’s much easier to sell “eating fat = body fat” then “eating fat = better muscles/brain congnative function” I noticed recently manufactured dressings have started printing the connection of fat/vitamins on their bottling.
Comment by katzemeow — July 5, 2012 @ 12:20 pm
“I heard that the number of Alzhiemers cases rose along with the low cholesterol diets and the drugs that lower your cholesterol count.”
Geezerette – do you have a link to info on this? My grandmother has early signs of Alzhiemers (the kids just took her car away because she doesn’t remember short term things) She eats like a bird (almost no fat) and now I’m wondering if she is on these meds.
Comment by katzemeow — July 5, 2012 @ 12:41 pm
PatrickP, I work with a vegetarian. Her doctor has told her that she isn’t taking in enough calories, and the calories she does take in don’t provide her with enough protein or amino acids.
I really think that the best advice is to have a variety in the diet, with not too much sugar, and less TV, Playstation, and facebook.
Comment by Paladin — July 5, 2012 @ 12:47 pm
Some day I’ll tell y’all about my Aunt Betty from Boise’s better bitter batter butter.
And Dennis Kucinich is the poster boy for vegans.
Comment by ZZMike — July 5, 2012 @ 2:22 pm
I gotcher fat right here:
Cheesecake strawberries:
1 lb. of large strawberries
8-oz. pkg. cream cheese
1 tsp. vanilla
4 tbsp. powdered sugar
graham cracker crumbs
Wash and core strawberries. Blend softened cream cheese with vanilla and powdered sugar. Use a spatula to fill the cored strawberries with the cream cheese mix. Dip cream-cheese end of strawberry in graham cracker crumbs. Chill.
Of course, they are even better with chocolate drizzled over the top.
Comment by PeggyU — July 5, 2012 @ 2:57 pm
Been olive oil and wine vinegar for me for years. And fresh lemon juice with a bit of salt and pepper.
Also the good seasons Italian mix which is the same with more spices.
Funny how fewer restaurants have oil and vinegar–they have to look for it after a blank look with tilted head then the bottles have sticky dust on ‘em. Thanks, i’ll have the ranch, please.
Comment by mech — July 5, 2012 @ 3:09 pm
I always have the a.m. talk radio station on when in the car– in the morning the Lets Play Doctor Doctor is on– he’s who I heard explaining the Importance of fats in our diet and does not believe in statins. Of course he’s selling his product at the same time and wants the listeners to sell it. Sooo ya got that there–but much of what he says makes sense. I wonder what you gain by taking statins and having to go in every 6mo.s for blood tests to make sure your liver/and all the other things are n’t affected. My parents/grandparents never worried about all this crap and lived a long life–90 and 92 years. My fathers sister lived to be 100. If we eat carrots we’re still going to die—- moderation in everything — you’ll die at 90 of a gun shot from a jealous husband/wife.
Comment by geezerette — July 5, 2012 @ 3:11 pm
Colonel Jerry, that’s good living right there.
I grew up the same way, along with snarfing rhubarb, strawberries, onions, and peppers right where they grew. I wasn’t a fan of the beans and I found it to be the cruelest of punishments to weed and pick the beans I disliked so much.
I hate summer, but being able to to pick a big red mater from the garden and eat it on the spot almost makes up for the heat and bugs.
Almost.
Indy forecast
Comment by Buzz — July 5, 2012 @ 4:32 pm
Recently found this Hidden Valley – Hickory Bacon & Onion dressing. Sure, it’s processed as hell, but tastes gooood!
Don’t eat much salad anyway, but it’s great on sammys, dogs, or what have you.
Comment by Hog Whitman — July 5, 2012 @ 5:16 pm
The Lets Play Doctor Doctor isn’t the only one I’ve heard discuss the cholesterol problem. My own Doctor isn’t that worried about it — ’cause mine is high– eat the same as the Mr. and his is low– have a cousin who’s 90lbs soaking wet who lives on fast food and hers is the same as mine I never eat fast food and very seldom eat in a restaurant. I’m NOT 90 lbs– My own Doc. says as long as I walk every day and keep busy keep eating in moderation like I do not to worry– I’ve tried the meds and react to them all.
Comment by geezerette — July 5, 2012 @ 6:35 pm
“You have 2 million-odd years of evolution telling you ‘fat is good, fat means you don’t have to keep scratching around looking for food’. Against that, what the hell is Weight Watchers?”
Comment by mojo — July 6, 2012 @ 8:10 am
mojo: There’s something to be said about that theory – but nowadays we don’t have to go out and bring down mastodons or run after antelope, eat our fill and hope we get another one in a week or so.
I think the real problem is that people are so completely different from one another that any regimen that works well for Mr A is going to be disastrous for Ms B.
That’s one of the reasons there are so many psychological therapies. Freud and EST worked great for many people – for a while at least – but were utter failures for many others. Some people even seem to do well with Scientology (having lots of money gets you further up the ladder). Some people do really well as day-traders, others go broke before quitting time. And so on.
The problem is that there doesn’t seem to be a way of telling exactly what sort of biological system anyone is.
So the solution is probably, do what works for you. If it doesn’t work, do something else.
Comment by ZZMike — July 6, 2012 @ 10:45 am
Yup ZZMike–Do what evah melts your butter–
Comment by geezerette — July 6, 2012 @ 11:22 am
ZZMike, exactly I’ve got some “fun” digestive/GI issues that massively effect what I can/can’t eat. If I tried being a vegitarian I would be extremely unhealthy, my system can’t handle any of their “alternative” types of protein. I can’t do most dairy, caffeine, or cook with animal fats, or mixed veg oils (I can only use real butter or olive oil).
Comment by katzemeow — July 6, 2012 @ 3:14 pm
katzemeow: That’s gotta make menu-planning simpler……
One of my office-mates a long time ago was allergic to (or at least, couldn’t process) dairy, wheat and (one other essential I can’t think of).
Luckily, the only thing I’m allergic to is nuts. (Peanuts are beans – but I hear that peanut allergy is pretty scary.)
Comment by ZZMike — July 6, 2012 @ 4:07 pm