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Well, the watermelon thing is more of a negative stereotype than racist.
There’s nothing inherently inferior about eating watermelon.
Identity politics, however, is blatantly racist, as you say.
In essence, it says:
You members of the following groups [insert list] are all alike. We know it’s not your own fault, you pitiful little things, but you are too incompetent and inferior to run your own lives without our guidance and aid. If you dare to object to this, we will publicly flog you. Now, get back on your reservations, vote for us, and shut up.
Yep, I’d call that racist.
Comment by DougM (November is coming) — August 30, 2012 @ 8:27 am
No judgement can be made as to whether a statement is racist or not until the identity of the speaker is know.
Silly conservatives, doncha know standards are conditional?
Comment by Brad — August 30, 2012 @ 8:35 am
It’s only racist if YOU say it. The old double standard.
Comment by Melissa In Texas — August 30, 2012 @ 9:22 am
NAACP
Comment by MikeG — August 30, 2012 @ 9:23 am
^National Association of Angry Colored People always comes to mind when I see that
*sigh*
where’s the bus stop?
Comment by Melissa In Texas — August 30, 2012 @ 9:25 am
Like the man said: if only you can hear the dog whistle…you’re the dog.
Comment by apotheosis — August 30, 2012 @ 9:50 am
So, you’re saying that they don’t all eat watermelon?
Next I suppose you’ll say that they don’t all have rhythm, cause that would be racist right there.
oh look… a bassetbawl…
I gotta go now. Gotta a bus to catch.
Comment by Hog Whitman — August 30, 2012 @ 9:55 am
Fried Chicken. Like I said b/4 I feel bad being a plain 57 variety white AMERICAN. No one cares if I vote or not.
Comment by geezerette — August 30, 2012 @ 10:11 am
BIG confession here KisPers! In March, 1966 my backseater in an F4B Phantom CAUSED (…incorrectly by dicshunari standards…) the expansion in meaning of the word *RACIST*!!
Lemme splain: My squadron was deployed to Okinawa for 2 weeks of bombing training. There was a small island 50 miles offshore that the Air Force used as a bombing range. Our Skipper made a deal with the Kadena F105 squadron to share the bombing range (…we had only 2 weeks outa Vietnam & then back to the war…) Whell, one morning I launched and immediately tally-hoed an F105 about a mile abeam heading the same direction & concluded he was heading to the island. Fulla piss and vinegar, I flew over next to him, saluted and then gave the hand signal for full afterburner and pointed straight ahead. He acknowledged, raised his left hand and chopped it down, meaning “GO!
At that time I was unfamiliar with the F105. Lit both burners and he lit his one burner and the race was on…. Long story short, he beat us by about a mile or two and got to do his bombing while we orbited….
On the radio we agreed to meet at the Kadena O club that evening and buy him a round or two.
Turns out my whole squadron tagged along, after they heard the story.
Skipper was so grateful the Air Force had agreed to share the bombing range, so we bought a hunnert pitchers of beer for the 105 squadron and generally grabbassed…and were all about .20 +/- BAC`s.
THEN. IT. HAPPENED!!! Backseater climbed up on a table, looked at the Air Force weenies, pointed to me, and said, “As a RACIST, Kamikaze sucks!!!!!”
(…applause, laughter, rolling on the floor, beer spilled, hugging—–more laughter….)
THAT, boys and girls, is when the word *racist* went from the old single meaning to——–what the fuck ever any and all meanings could be described as *racist*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It spread around the world from right there and is in effect even right now, as I write————-An the RATz, LibTurds, Hollywood assholes, talking heads and all dipshits who banty it around———have NO idea that me an my backseater are the source!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[....10:33, have just finished a homemade cheeseburger for breakfast-----and---------after this confession------------am gonna pour myself a ice tea glass of brandy...........]
Comment by Colonel Jerry USMC — August 30, 2012 @ 10:37 am
As much as I like my governor Susanna and think she’s doing a fantastic job, it made me throw up in my mouth a bit when she did the spanish bit in her speech last night.
Has no one made an effort to step beyond color of skin, etc. to simply look at people according to their character?
Condi was a good Sec State who happens to be black. And made an outstanding speech as well.
We (conservatives) need to lead in not regarding things which separate us and focus on the things which bring us together. My ethnicity means nothing to me, I’m an American. This is a melting pot, not a lumpy stew.
Out of many, one. Not out of many, balkinization.
Comment by mech — August 30, 2012 @ 10:44 am
So you are a RACIST—-thank you for the story– I love them.
Comment by geezerette — August 30, 2012 @ 10:56 am
Claire,
Yeah, that’s a wayyy better example.
[blinks eyes at notion that somebody actually takes my stuff seriously, a heavy responsibility, that]
Comment by DougM (November is coming) — August 30, 2012 @ 12:49 pm
That’s not the only group he’s pandering to. In order to save you having to go to his site, here is:
African Americans for Obama
“Environmentalists for Obama”
“Latinos for Obama”
“Native Americans for Obama”
“People of Faith for Obama”
…..”The President believes people of all faiths have a place in American public life.”
Just so long as you accept his stand on abortion, birth control, end-of-life counseling, and adoption policies.”
“Educators for Obama”
….That one’s a slam-dunk.”
“Jewish Americans for Obama”
…Just so long as they don’t mention Israel.”
And so on.
The “Groups” link is on the upper right, in the “Get Involved” tab.
PS: Take a look at the HTML for the Obama page. There’s an ASCII-art “O” symbol, in the code that checks what kind of browser you have – it’s what shows if you’re using a text-only browser. Weird.
Comment by ZZMike — August 30, 2012 @ 2:17 pm
This cracked me up:
Campaigning in the negrohood….
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/brooklyn-pol-negrohood-mailer-a-typo-article-1.1147632
Comment by Melissa In Texas — August 30, 2012 @ 2:23 pm
I think the Left has long jumped the shark on this one. This nation is fed up wit it.
Comment by LLoyd — August 30, 2012 @ 5:03 pm
The point I was trying to make (1) is the difference, to my mind anyway, between real racism and common negative stereotyping.
The words stereotyping (emphasizing real or imagined common traits) and caricature (emphasizing unique traits) are often intentionally misused to make political hay. Both are a staple of comedy, since they allow the audience to identify and to identify with the butt of the joke (e.g. Irish/drink, Caucasian/no-rhythm, etc). You know, ethnic-joke stuff, the funny jokes. It’s mostly harmless, unless a group has been over-sensitized by propaganda, lawsuit reward, political exploitation, etc.
Racism is quite another thing. It’s an almost sociopathic superiority/inferiority blanket judgment that allows the repression, subjugation, or cruelty against persons belonging to an identifiable group (used to be racial, now it’s any favored ethnicity, probably due to the stereotype/caricature misuse I discussed above). In its vilest form, racists see these groups as natural victims who depend on the superior group for everything from protection to sustenance to dignity, even existence. The truly aberrant racist minds even go so far as to cruelly enforce racial identity, especially against those who attempt to break out of their DNA chains.
Comment by DougM (November is coming) — August 31, 2012 @ 7:10 am
The truly aberrant racist minds even go so far as to cruelly enforce racial identity, especially against those who attempt to break out of their DNA chains.
Stealing that!
Comment by Hog Whitman — August 31, 2012 @ 9:22 am