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  1. If that 100-year-starship project is what I think it is – the “century” or “generation ship” idea for interstellar travel, which is really the only sensible solution for a human species with no plausible path toward scifi-style “cryosleep” – then at least it’s not a completely asinine field of study.

    It’s definitely more properly a field of government-funded research than goddamned beef jerky.

    Comment by apotheosis — November 18, 2012 @ 11:25 am

  2. Oh, I have some stories of ‘fraud, waste and abuse’ I saw as a military contractor. Things built into the system- not even counting proposals or research contracts- Redundancy Departments of Redundancies.

    But I bet others here have even better ones.

    Comment by mech — November 18, 2012 @ 12:08 pm

  3. The Space ship would have to be huge, and would have to be built above Earth`s atmosphere. I can`t imagine how the costs would be spead, since one nation-state could not afford it. Should the ship be one-way only or would it need to be round trip; over centuries?

    The WEAKEST link in the proposal; WE are still monkeys with car keys!!!!!

    Comment by Colonel Jerry USMC — November 18, 2012 @ 12:13 pm

  4. Let’s make it one-way, populate it with mooslims, and send them off to colonize the moon.

    I didn’t say which moon.

    Comment by apotheosis — November 18, 2012 @ 12:36 pm

  5. Jesus H Kkkkkrist!

    Comment by DougM (Well, thaaat sucked!) — November 18, 2012 @ 12:55 pm

  6. Meanwhile, out in the field, soldiers and Marines go without needed gear, Sailors on under-manned ships struggle with basic preventive maintenance and airman work extra hours to keep aged aircraft serviceable.

    I hate wasteful stupidity.

    Comment by MCPO — November 18, 2012 @ 3:18 pm

  7. When you take things out of context, they can look awfully silly. A program to produce a better low-moisture protein source? It must be stupid roll-up jerky! A program to draw tech-savvy nerds? It’s Star Trek stupidity!

    My point is: don’t jump to conclusions. Wasn’t there someone recently who proposed canceling the NASCAR sponsorship program?

    Comment by iD — November 18, 2012 @ 4:06 pm

  8. The choice may be *this Universe* w/o humans or with them. I know, is right up there with buying or not buying Girl Scout cookies……..Genealities kept in grandma`s bible expired a long time ago. Me, I druther my history not be akin to the giant lizards, ala some life form diggin up my fossils……..by that lil black martian with a helmet & sword…..or a fucking Cylon!

    Comment by Colonel Jerry USMC — November 18, 2012 @ 6:35 pm

  9. Regarding iphones.

    friday I watched a 10 and 12 year old girl get on their computer and track their Mom’s iphone with the GPS . . .

    AND listen in on her conversations.

    Just saying.

    Comment by mech — November 18, 2012 @ 8:07 pm

  10. The Starship Project sets a goal 100 years from now, of building a working starship. With that set date, the initiative is to investigate promising technologies, with an eye to making them achievable to support that future launch date.

    One of the iron laws of bureaucracy: “Wouldn’t nothing get done, if there weren’t a suspense date.”

    Comment by Fat Baxter — November 18, 2012 @ 9:17 pm

  11. Also, another dirty little secret about the Pentagon budget: Most of the congressional bitching is because someone feels not enough funds are going into his/her district. They don’t care what the money’s really being spent on, just as long as the spigot’s flowing.

    Believe it or not, most of this shit is wedged into the Pentagon budget by all the various committees that review it (a result of earmarks favoring someone’s pet rock back home, as payback for support). The Pentagon didn’t ask for this crap. Been there, seen that.

    Comment by Fat Baxter — November 18, 2012 @ 9:24 pm

  12. It’s never waste, because some grateful voter/contributor cashes the checks.


    Comment by staghounds — November 19, 2012 @ 3:29 am

  13. “Did Jesus Die for Klingons Too?”

    Some years back I read that circa 1926 (Wehrner von Braun limited to a rubber-band slingshot by his parents) there was a “teaching principle” in place at some Catholic seminaries to direct student discussions to conclude that each species is provided its own path, and should not be proselytised. Not doctrine, just a strong suggestion.

    Comment by John A — November 19, 2012 @ 11:04 am

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