The only thing that would have improved this story is if a pigeon had collided with their drone thingy……….
Comment by SondraK, Queen of my domain — November 20, 2012 @ 10:10 am
i have to wonder, what are the police investigating? something flies over a private property hunting club and gets shot. unless they are investigating the drone owners for voyeurism, i don’t see a case here
I’m kind of surprised there was only “a single sharp rifle crack “.
I recall a day at rifle practice when a bird landed near a guy’s target. Everybody on the line had the same idea and the poor thing vanished in a hail of lead and a cloud of dust as maybe twenty guys switched lanes at the same instant.
Comment by dick, not quite dead white guy — November 20, 2012 @ 10:38 am
Comment by SondraK, Queen of my domain — November 20, 2012 @ 11:23 am
You beat me to it, Doug (7).
No genuinely competent shooter is going to fire a rifle at an angle like that. (Unless down-range consists of the Pacific Ocean. Maybe.)
But then, one can’t expect the ‘tards to think about things like that ……
Comment by Lord of the Fleas — November 20, 2012 @ 11:52 am
Back in the 80s the Army messed around with using r/c planes for gunnery practice. An article I remember in R/C Modeler Magazine remarked at how surprised the crack gun crews were at how hard it was to hit and damage them. Then again the modern quad-copter drones do most of their time in a motionless hover.
I’d also be more apt to believe a shotgun than a rifle.
Most likely the loud “pop” of a shotgun. Of course, there was an easier way for them to get that video. They could have joined the club and got all the video they wanted. Youtube is probably full of member videos.
Also, the most likely cause of drone crash is pilot error. Good luck getting a bunch of total strangers to pay for that. not that there is any proof that the hippies didn’t shoot it themselves at point blank range.
….Manually brought down…. Spose that eliminates a female shooter and/or gravity—–as an accessory, after the fact….? [...me, I see unplanned expenses in the latest fad of *drones*...] Plus a window for some enterprizing dood to capitalize on *heat-seeking shotgun slugs*……For every counter, there are counter-counters—–ad nauseum de pukeimous ad infinitium… PETA meets meat hunters; & multiple red dots….Pink camoflague proves to be very limited utility…..and excessively costly when considering bolts of cloth to fit a market predominated by demands for XXXLarge attire….
Comment by Colonel Jerry USMC — November 20, 2012 @ 12:42 pm
Rifle crack, indeed! More likely a shotgun blast. I got your rifle crack right here (drops trou).
^ So if I load up my shotgun with an icicle…basically, it’s THE PERFECT CRIME!!1!!!
Comment by apotheosis — November 20, 2012 @ 2:44 pm
It probably was a shotgun – but you can shoot a rifle at a high angle, you just have to understand gravity and the fact that the way it alters a bullet’s path is not *entirely* intuitive – partly because a bullet doesn’t leave a barrel parallel to your sights/scope. You actually aim *low* when shooting downhill, for example – *and* when shooting uphill.
Please tell me none of you are accepting the premise that the writer realizes shotguns aren’t rifles.
Comment by SteveHGraham — November 20, 2012 @ 3:57 pm
Nope. Point taken Steve…..Nobody, I know of, takes a rifle to a pidgeon shoot….Hell, I took my Remington sheet barrel .28 gage to a Beeville, Texas shoot one Sunday morning. Max shit, but I ate hardy for supper…..
Comment by Colonel Jerry USMC — November 20, 2012 @ 4:10 pm
^ LotF (12) & ColJ (22)
Dang! Beat me to my update. (I was off finishing my new workbench top.)
Yeah, anybody bringing a rifle at a pigeon shoot would be unceremoniously escorted off the premises.
Not only can’t you hit a flying bird, it’s friggin’ dangerous negligent to shoot a rifle into anything but a sure-thing backstop, since a rifle bullet can travel a couple miles (paper > cardboard > dirt, in that order).
Lead bird-shot, on the other hand, can’t travel over 300yds.
Yeah, and bomber-crew gunners in WWII were trained by shooting shotguns from moving truck beds.
Comment by DougM (Well, thaaat sucked!) — November 20, 2012 @ 5:42 pm
They had a Sharps rifle? Damn! May I take a shot with it? Please, please, please, please, please?
My brother was deer hunting one fall from a tree stand, and he swears that starting the first day of the season and every day following, both morning and evening, just after he still hunts his way into position, climbs the tree and settles into his stand, this stupid ruffed grouse would fly into the lowest branch of his tree and sit there and call. Stayed until he started to get down out of the tree, then it would bugger off, but come back if he climbed back up.
He put up with it for the first 3 days, and finally just as the light was fading on the 3rd evening, he lined it up through his scope and squeezed off a 30-30 from about 18 feet.
He said there were lots of feathers, and not really a whole lot you could recognize as specific parts of the bird, but I never went to check.
He did bring home a six pointer 2 days later, lol.
Comment by mitchel44 — November 20, 2012 @ 7:47 pm
Long time ago this guy named Karamojo Bell (yes THE Bell of Africa) was down by a like potting birds while lying on his back. The birds were about 100 yards up in the air. Some old Brits notice the shooting, seems he connected about every other shot, and they asked him what kind of shotgun he was using.
Bell showed them his 6.5mm Manlincher rifle! Seems he had a case of bad ammo that would misfire now and then (a bad thing when hunting elephants) and he used up the ammo on the birds!
So yes, one shot can take down a drone, if you have a sharp eye and good gun.
Speaking of flying spy-craft being operated by unsavoury characters, the first American to shoot down a Predator or other such drone being operated domestically to spy on US citizens is guaran-freaking-TEED to be a national hero.
Comment by Lord of the Fleas — November 20, 2012 @ 8:47 pm
I’ve been trying to find a video of the guy who tosses aspirin tablets up in the air and shoots them with a .22 rifle.
Anybody seen it?
There are some folks who can make the shot plus as TimO said, home made image stabilization is tough so they will hover to get a good picture. Easier than a dove coming at you.
Just hoping it doesn’t become an excuse to try and grab the guns of the gun owners at the club- A False Flak Operation.
Comment by accipiter NW — November 20, 2012 @ 11:13 pm
I took up cowboy action shooting. Being somewhat financially challenged I use my house defense shotgun, the difference being the load. All it took was going from buckshot to birdshot.
Later I took up loading my cowboy cartridges with black powder. There is a real difference between the sounds of the various loads. Not that these libtards would know. Nor would they be too awfully interested in a bunch of (mostly old) folks in funny clothes shooting old timey guns. If they did send a drone though, I have some ammo loaded with number four and number two birdshot, the goose loads that are now illegal over water because of the lead shot, that would seem to be ideal for the job of taking down a slow moving or hovering drone.
TimO(13) – actually it was back in the Seventies, ’cause I participated. We used small arms–M16′s, M60′s–and yes, they are very difficult to bring down. We punched a bunch of holes in the thing but never hit anything vital.
Comment by Snackeater — November 21, 2012 @ 7:59 am
Hopefully the successful shooter won’t have to reach into his own pocket to buy drinks at the club for, say, the next year or two.
This little aerial thing they sent up was obviously not built to avoid/withstand an attack on itself. My concern about military drones is that they would have an ability to stay effectively out of range while still providing good enough imaging to record the information they need. Are there other ways of bringing them down or messing them up that involve interfering with their communications somehow? Not that shooting at them wouldn’t be fun.
Are there other ways of bringing them down or messing them up that involve interfering with their communications somehow? Not that shooting at them wouldn’t be fun.
Yep. Suicide drones. Little, relatively cheap, disposable. They don’t need to have the loiter time of an observation drone, so you can make ‘em all speed.
Comment by apotheosis — November 21, 2012 @ 3:40 pm
Interesting question, whether it’s a crime or not to shoot down the drone.
It’s vandalism to destroy another’s property. If I leave my car out of gear and it rolls into your yard, I’m responsible for damages but you don’t have the right to destroy the car.
Sending the drone over the club is a trespass, so the shot was defense of property I suppose. The law is that one may not use deadly force to eject a trespasser, but drones can’t die.
Assuming the drone was over the club’s or the shooter’s property, I’d say no crime.
Comment by staghounds — November 21, 2012 @ 4:34 pm
Chris Muir of Day by Day has already addressed this:
Personally, I’d say that anything that falls uninvited on my property is mine, and I can do anything I like with it until I give it back. If it’s yours, you’d better be at the curb on several not-necessarily-consecutive trash days.
Comment by rickn8or — November 21, 2012 @ 11:04 pm