Rumsfeld update: no news is no news

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  1. I will keep you all in my thoughts and prayers.

    Comment by kinlaw — November 25, 2012 @ 9:52 am

  2. I know you well enough to know that you are so tenderly sympathic that you would willingly, if it were possible, take the pain of all those you know (peeps + animals—even JR!…) if it would make their pains go away! I remember years ago when Smurfy & Rumsfeld got into a hassle in the kitchen and you leaped in and bravely pulled them apart. Moments later I said, “We shoulda never let them watch *The Expendables” last night!* You spit out a whole mouthful of coffee trying to suppress the laughter……………

    Your heart is too big for your own good, sweetie pie! And The Porch knows it….

    Comment by Colonel Jerry USMC — November 25, 2012 @ 10:13 am

  3. check his ear canals for schmutz… use one of the “doggie ear schmutz dissolver” products on him, and give it a good squeegie-ing out with Q-Tips and a clean rag….

    can’t guarantee results, but it certainly helped the case with my own mutt. he hasn’t had a single episode of the twitchies since we started doing that regularly.

    Comment by RetRsvMike — November 25, 2012 @ 10:21 am

  4. I’ll bet ya Mitt’s $10,000 [or a hypo-allergenic dog cookie] that the Pfizer rep will be “puzzled and never heard of such a thing.”

    Like they’re gonna open themselves up to lawsuits from a gajillion dog owners?

    I still thing a coupla conversations with Corgi breeders / Corgi Clubs might be in order. Try emailing the Queen’s breeder and asking if they do lepto in their country and what was the result. Couldn’t hurt, oi?

    Comment by Claire: rebellious pink pig with car keys - and a *cause* — November 25, 2012 @ 10:36 am

  5. I’m hoping he feels better in no time.

    Comment by MCPO — November 25, 2012 @ 10:41 am

  6. Let’s be clear, the liquid valium is for Rummy, right? I hope whatever it was has run it’s course.

    Comment by MikeG — November 25, 2012 @ 10:47 am

  7. ^ It is unless I squirt it up my own butt :)

    ( *I* have Zanax and can swallow in my distress :)

    Comment by SondraK, Queen of my domain — November 25, 2012 @ 10:49 am

  8. Genetics may be the culprit. If so, you have to be the brave human and help during a crises. It hurts and is horrifying to watch.

    God bless you for caring.

    Comment by Jess — November 25, 2012 @ 11:25 am

  9. SondraK,
    Make sure he isn’t chewing on plants inside or outside. Fertilizer and or certain plants can do some strange things and can leave his system relatively quickly. (sure the vet told you but just in case)

    Comment by Lurch — November 25, 2012 @ 11:37 am

  10. Tonic? Muscles tight bad quivering?

    Comment by mojo — November 25, 2012 @ 11:37 am

  11. Lurch…was my first thought the first time it happened…mushrooms are major around these parts. At The Asylum there’s generally 38875 piles of goose poop on the grass and little colonies of shrooms that accumulate in between visits and I anal retentively scoop them all up first thing and spend much of my time during visits looking down and around for any we may have missed. Of course there was a chance albeit slim but the pooches don’t seem to be interested in the shrooms as much as they love the poop and they’re never outside there unattended ( no fence yet/coyotes/deer to chase etc ) and being the helicopter mama I am I keep constant watch. Here at home I do the same thing… we also have an organic garden and plant nothing poisonous or troublesome for them. research after the first episode pointed toward one of theose pine tree air fresheners that I’d opened up and hung on the perpetual Christmas tree I set up at The Asylum. LOTS of stuff on that and Pine Sol etc ( we’re pretty anal about not using toxic cleansers too )…..

    But the last bout of episodes were here at home so any location connection went out the conclusion window…

    Comment by SondraK, Queen of my domain — November 25, 2012 @ 11:49 am

  12. ( why does this crap always happen on a Saturday midnight in the middle of nowhere or a holiday week end??? ).

    Don’t you read the fine print? It’s right there in the contract.

    In any case, it’s not related to toxins. I’m not a vet, but I’ve worked with thousands of animals over forty years, and what you get with plant ingestion is vomiting (sometimes) kidney/liver effects, and sometimes other issues – but not, as a rule, seizures.

    You really wanna run up the bills, then have your critter sedated and scanned (you guaranteed such services when you installed the flashing neon sign on your roof that offers “free food and veterinary care”). Bet you cash money they find a tumor either on the upper spine or brain itself. Sorry, but that’s where most seizures originate. Best of luck to you all!

    Comment by Max — November 25, 2012 @ 12:15 pm

  13. Tell Rummy I’m pullin’ for ‘im.

    Comment by DougM (Well, thaaat sucked!) — November 25, 2012 @ 12:19 pm

  14. Lots more no news to youze on this front.

    I nearly spewed my egg nog on the valium comment. XD

    Comment by mech — November 25, 2012 @ 1:20 pm

  15. I’m not a big believer in coincidence and am pretty suspicious that this is a reaction to the vaccine. A rabies shot killed our dog and here’s why…

    The standard rabies vaccine is good for three years, but many municipalities insist on a fresh shot every year. That means the dog’s second shot has him up to 5 times the necessary level for protection. The next year, 7 times more. Keep this up long enough and the dog’s immune system freaks out and goes on an auto-immune binge destroying the internal organs.

    Our sheltie was 100% healthy until he got the shot; dead two or three miserable days (and over $1000) later.

    Good luck – and keep us updated!

    Comment by Stilton — November 25, 2012 @ 1:31 pm

  16. I’ll go with the vaccination———–I’m sure dogs/animals can be sensitive to meds the same a humans. I for one and our youngest could not tolerate them. Dr’s don’t like when you tell them that— than again??– There is a reason and the way to find out what it is is by the process of elimination. Too many theories could throw you off. Do a history–time of day , when he had the first one–were there any warnings, what was happening b/4 he had them– now that you think back— how long it lasted– what it was like– how he was when he came out of it–there might be even a small common thread in there somewhere that would be a clue. Or not likely but it could be an anomaly–

    Comment by geezerette — November 25, 2012 @ 1:43 pm

  17. If it was Smurphy, my guess would be bath salts.

    Comment by SteveHGraham — November 25, 2012 @ 2:26 pm

  18. I betcha he’s right as rain. Like I said, my sister’s derg did somethin similar a couple of months back and nothin’ ever came of it. Likewise, after I told this story to the wife and she relayed it to a friend at work, said friend mentioned that her corgi’s done the same thing a coupla times, vet couldn’t narrow it down to anything but an effect of age. In both cases they’re just fine.

    Be of good cheer and if all else fails, give him bacon. There’s not much wrong with a dog that that bacon can’t cure.

    Comment by apotheosis — November 25, 2012 @ 2:32 pm

  19. Steve….OWIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes.

    So the vaccines…
    I titer test every two years and only get what they could possibly get even then. Except for the fucking rabies…because it’s the law. On that, I always “forget” for awhile when he’s due( Rumsfeld was almost 4 years out this time )…

    Next time, I’m going to rely on the titter and a letter of titer that says he’s covered. Apparently that satisfies the law but won’t satisfy in a lawsuit if he bites someone…but not sure if that’s if they get rabies or means I’d have to pay for the human follow up or not. More investigating on that.

    The lepto was a decision I made with my vet. She’s the one who worked with me and my Odin with the cancer stuff and is totally into alternative meds etc… but because of the amount of time spent at The Asylum and what with all the wildlife every where ( and how easily it’s transmitted to humans from their dog ) we decided it was a good move. I noticed NOTHING from either dog after the lepto “series” but like I said, the first episode happened 2 weeks after the 2nd lepto and 3 days after the rabies.

    Yea, it’s the fucking vaccine…..

    Comment by SondraK, Queen of my domain — November 25, 2012 @ 3:16 pm

  20. Hay Doug…the pic is worong. With Rumsfeld the drag marks are OUT of the ocean.

    Comment by SondraK, Queen of my domain — November 25, 2012 @ 4:20 pm

  21. Good thoughts your way for you and Rummie. Also JR and Smurphy.

    Hope it’s a one-time deal and over and done with.

    Find it hard to believe either of your dogs would bite anyone.

    Comment by rickn8or — November 25, 2012 @ 5:40 pm

  22. Missy (20)
    Okay, let me rephrase that:
    Tell Rummy I’m pullin’ for ‘im.

    Comment by DougM (Well, thaaat sucked!) — November 25, 2012 @ 6:20 pm

  23. Sondra, I’m so sorry about Rumsfeld. I have to go with the vaccines too. Becuz my daughter is severely disabled, I’ve dealt with other moms with kids, like mine. A few have experienced devastating reactions with their kids and vaccines. After being vaccinated, some kids experienced seizures within hours. Others within a week to a month. Some have outgrown it, others continue to have seizures. I do believe that vaccinations can have horrible reactions in humans or our pets. I think if a child or pet has a compromised immune system or a neurological disorder, vaccines can cause havoc for them. My daughter had her yearly shots at nine months. That week she had a grand mal (convulsion) seizure. I feel for you Sondra. I know what it is to constantly walk on egg shells in fear of seeing another one of those son of a bitches. I hate epilepsy with a passion. Hang in there. Hopefully Rummy will be fine and nothing more will happen! Keeping you and Rummy in my prayers.

    Comment by PunkyD — November 25, 2012 @ 7:03 pm

  24. Did you consider epileptic symptoms? I had a lab that started having seizures at age 4. I was able to minimize them by giving her phenobarb. There’s no cure, just trying to minimize the number of ‘em.

    OC

    Comment by OC — November 26, 2012 @ 7:59 am

  25. In the old days, you bought a dog, fed it, gave it a rabies shot and heartworm pills, and everything was fine. Seems like it’s getting harder and harder to keep them healthy.

    Comment by SteveHGraham — November 26, 2012 @ 8:34 am

  26. My Lab/Husky cross has had 3 unexplainable episodes where she becomes incredibly lethargic and her eyes look as if she can’t keep them open.

    One of them I was sure was one day we used the self cleaning over and their was a lot of smoke.

    The other episodes may have been smoke/oven related.

    She is 13 years and 10 months and still with us.

    Comment by Bruce — November 26, 2012 @ 10:53 am

  27. I’m 2 months now Sondra nursing my little thin Khet. She’s about 9y/o and as sick as I am its a full time job getting her to eat and do the meds I have to give her 2x daily. It would be really great if your cat would say :Just give me some cold water, I’ll take them.” She is so weak and thin. Vet that came by in October said she had hbp and overactive thyroid.

    I’m am weak and worn down myself but we love our little ‘kids’ and would do almost anything for them. I sure am praying for you both and that he will be OK. What a good looking cutie he is.

    Comment by LLoyd — November 26, 2012 @ 8:37 pm

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