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  1. What I find the most sad about this?
    Someone has to TELL them to protect themselves?

    Comment by Melissa In Texas — November 30, 2012 @ 8:13 pm

  2. Tell me about it DougM. I’ve got a son, d-i-l and 1.3 grandchildren in Oakland that I sweat bullets over.

    Claire, I’d appreciate it very much if you’d straighten out the weather before I go there next weekend…

    Comment by rickn8or — November 30, 2012 @ 8:34 pm

  3. I have big plans for San Bernardino.

    Comment by PatrickP — November 30, 2012 @ 10:20 pm

  4. As time goes by, and the country becomes more desperate from the effects and policies of this fraudulently elected fraud of a President, more people will lock and load before leaving their homes to even go out to the mailbox.

    There are definite reasons that the DalaiBama and his pimps in the UN and The Democratic Party want our guns.

    The number one reason is tyranny.

    “None dare call it conspiracy”

    Comment by Joe Blam! Member™ — November 30, 2012 @ 10:34 pm

  5. Patrick (3)
    I’m afraid to ask.

    Comment by DougM (Well, thaaat sucked!) — November 30, 2012 @ 10:51 pm

  6. If the little bastards manage to shoot themselves before it’s necessary, one less mouth to feed. They should have learned the basics a long time ago. The rest is just a ballful of tyranny that someone is throwing at you.

    Do you swallow the ball? I don’t.

    Comment by Hog Whitman — November 30, 2012 @ 11:09 pm

  7. They want my guns? I don’t have any guns.

    I have ordnance acceleration devices. Nobody said anything about those.

    Comment by apotheosis — November 30, 2012 @ 11:30 pm

  8. I have a chain of pharmacies that dispense lead pills and some banks that store copper and lead bullion.
    The later is near true – I dug out some components I bought 20-30 years ago and the current prices are four to six times the old price tags on the boxes.

    Comment by dick, not quite dead white guy — December 1, 2012 @ 12:06 am

  9. Just got off the phone with Spouse “F”. She sounded okay, at first. She did seem to sound a little bit ‘nervy’.

    I’ve been trying to tell her not to get off those anti-depressants for years, but would she listen to me then? No!

    Comment by Hog Whitman — December 1, 2012 @ 5:34 am

  10. I grew up (in the 50′s) with a father who worked nights and a mother who kept a loaded hand gun in the open on the table next the bed. I knew it was there, knew it was loaded and KNEW if I touched it either I or someone I loved WOULD DIE! You can’t hide guns from kids. I saw a 5 yr old brought into ER who had gotten the key to his father’s locked desk drawer, got the gun, climbed to the top shelf in the closet to get the ammo, loaded the gun and promptly shot himself in the leg. Any kid worth their salt knows the location of everything you have hidden. If your guns are locked up to the point that your child cannot poosibly get at them, then they are of no defensive use at all. Teach your children. That is the best safety.

    Comment by Terentia — December 1, 2012 @ 5:51 am

  11. (10) Agreed Terentia,

    Our kids were 5 and 7 years old when they first shot one of my guns. They knew where they were kept, what they could do and how to handle them safely, As safely as you can teach them for their ages. Obviously it is not all done with one lesson. You still have to excercise EXTREME caution when having guns and kids in the same house.

    My wife was less than thrilled when I got my permit to carry, still gives me a little grief about having it on me. (“Do you REALLY need that at Walmart?”) I should hope not, but I’m taking it anyway. She has softened her opposition over time and even suggested that I carry the pistol in my pocket instead of on my belt because it is less noticable. Apparently her major oppositon to it is that it might be seen and attract attention despite me wearing clothes that do a pretty good job of concealment.

    I dunno. Though most of the jeans have pretty big pockets and I can get to the firearm even easier that pulling it from the holster, a .45 does leave quite a bulge. (Why yes, I AM happy to see you, and yes that IS a gun)

    Might have a decent chance of finding something a litttle smaller in my stocking this year!

    Comment by MikeG — December 1, 2012 @ 7:04 am

  12. He didn’t than point out that if you paid more taxes this wouldn’t be necessary? The “scare tactic” is no different than the person who invades your home with a gun to take what you own. Your average person is scared to death of guns and wouldn’t have one in their home and depend solely on 911. Your average person is afraid to do anything on their own. Just listen to the BS our President is spewing that they believe.

    Comment by geezerette — December 1, 2012 @ 8:09 am

  13. I’ve owned guns since I was old enough to, and possessed them before that.

    I have yet to see one of them do anything on their own. They just sit there.

    That being said, the Obamunists and their pimps in the UN , The Democratic Party, and the Communist “news media”, are Hell-bent on taking them away from law abiding Americans.

    Criminals, whether governments, gangs, or individuals, do not go by any laws and will still have them to terrorize us and/or instill the tyranny they all clamor for.

    Therefore, as long as there is one breath of life in this old fart, I will not give any of mine up. they will have to kill me in a pile of spent shell casings. Fuck them, I won’t go peaceably.

    Molon Labe.

    Comment by JoeBandMember™ — December 1, 2012 @ 10:56 am

  14. So, going from Claire’s story on the Weather Service and hearing the newscaster claim the little rain storm was “going to be our Katrina”, it is refreshing to see a California city councilman in favor of citizens right to keep his legally owned firearm at the ready.

    Comment by accipiter NW — December 1, 2012 @ 11:28 am

  15. Terentia,
    Amen. Kids can be trained to use a firearm safely under supervision, but no training can prevent a child from exploring and playing with what they find. The temptation is uncontrollable when peers are around, too. No child is responsible enough to deal with deadly weapons unsupervised. Not even yours … or especially yours if you know what’s good for you. (says the guy with no kids)
    PS: that goes for every friggin’ adult, too. Never trust another Homo sapiens with your gun. Your gun, your responsibility.

    MikeG
    Yeah, I carry a smallish pocket pistol on occasion (snubbie w/shrouded hammer), but always in a pocket holster to protect the trigger and keep the grip oriented (and to make the pocket last). I especially like that rig in the inside breast pocket of my leather flight jacket while driving. That also makes it easy and safe to remove by shedding the jacket when going into a no-gun place … if one actually has to. [insert tome about using a holster that can be easily removed with the handgun still in it, if you're likely to need to disarm]
    PS: it’s not safe to practice draw & live-fire with anything but a hip holster. Practice with the others unloaded. Actually, one should practice draw/dry-fire/re-holster a lot with an unloaded handgun. No range needed. You’re welcome.

    Lest new KisPers be misled,
    I generally advocate a shorter-barrelled shotgun as the primary home-defense weapon.
    [send SASE for the long-winded version of why]

    Comment by DougM (Well, thaaat sucked!) — December 1, 2012 @ 11:35 am

  16. Doug,

    The city is situated at the base of the mountains and close to the mountain ski resorts, a short drive to Palm Springs, has a natural river flowing through it, there is a former air base which is now an “international airport” that is beginning to function as a logistics/cargo hub, heavy rails lines including Metrolink commuter rail, Cal State campus and community college and private colleges, good weather, proximity to LA 1.5 hours away, and good freeway accessibility, with the 10, 210, and 215. It should not be bankrupt!

    Comment by PatrickP — December 1, 2012 @ 12:10 pm

  17. I have a “Sleepy Time” HDW by my bedside, an assault mod 870, first round bean bag, second hard rubber shot and the rest, well, it’s remodeling time at the Lair. Not because I am oh so kind, but when you have 20 something Kids and teens, there has to be a fail safe in case…. Mongo the Saint also helps, as he sleeps at the foot of our bed.

    Downstairs my 1911, magazine close by, Cubs KNOW that touching without me present might be worse than….. Well, anything.

    Out and about, depending on where we’re going, is my Judge in pocket and Wife’s 2 shot .22 derringer in hers.

    Usually, it’s no firearm. I teach at a local MMA school…. But the Mall? Harry Clap, they scare the jebeebus out of me.

    Comment by Wollf — December 1, 2012 @ 12:45 pm

  18. I can clearly remember coming home during lunch when I was nine. No one else was there. I went into the bedroom and got dad’s .38 out and took out a bullet and was hitting it with a hammer trying to make it go off.

    Obviously, I was unsuccessful.

    Comment by Hog Whitman — December 1, 2012 @ 1:11 pm

  19. … and then a year or so later, going over to this kid’s house, with some other kids, and out in the garage we were taking the ammo from his dad’s hunting rifle, cranking it down into a vice and twisting the bullet off with a pair of pliers so we could save the powder to make our own fireworks later.

    The amazing part is, I think we all made it to adulthood with all of our fingers and toes still intact.

    Comment by Hog Whitman — December 1, 2012 @ 4:01 pm

  20. ^ Yep,
    ain’t no such thing as a smart-enough or responsible-enough kid.
    (What? Oh, yeah … ‘specially me. That’s how I know. [insert list])

    Comment by DougM (Well, thaaat sucked!) — December 1, 2012 @ 4:15 pm

  21. DougM: Ah, you’re another one of those “Don’t ask me how I know this…” kinda people too.

    Comment by rickn8or — December 1, 2012 @ 4:55 pm

  22. Doug, I have one Young Feller left. Believe me, there are certain ones who Are responsible and smart enough. At 15, just a bit away from Eagle Scout, and his goal is Annapolis, Marine Corps Ossifer, and then on to Police and SWAT.

    He actually spooks me a bit with his single minded purpose.

    There is a Future.

    Comment by Wollf — December 1, 2012 @ 5:02 pm

  23. rickn8or (21)
    Yep,
    Ain’t nuthin’ more virtuous than a reformed whore.
    Wisdom comes from experience, and experience comes from a lack of wisdom.
    (What? So what? When have I ever claimed to be original?)

    Comment by DougM (Well, thaaat sucked!) — December 1, 2012 @ 9:11 pm

  24. Has anyone noticed that in times of great budgetary crisis,
    the first target is public safety?

    Never once to do they threaten layoffs of teachers or the
    thousands of worthless bureaucrats in the social welfare
    agencies.

    Comment by Leonard Jones — December 2, 2012 @ 11:08 am

  25. When I was about 10 a buddy and I were behind his folks garage. We had a box of .22s and were hitting them with a wrench. Hey, I’d seen the Lone Ranger do it, and he killed the bad guy. After flattening about a dozen, I said well just one more. Bam, it went off. We were sure someone had heard us and ran into the bushes. After a minute my friend said, “hey, your eye is bleeding.” Long story short, the bullet creased the cornea of my left eye, I spent 3 days in bed with a tennisball sized bandage on the left and my right taped shut. Still see a scar occasionally. Well, thats why I haven’t won the powerball, I used almost all my luck in 1967, the rest by 1980

    Comment by yeah, that guy. — December 2, 2012 @ 1:08 pm

  26. that guy: same story here, except was alone and no injuries except for a ringing in the ears.
    Rode around in Navy airplanes for 20 years, some of which I’d wrenched on. Yer right, no more lottery tickets for me.

    Comment by rickn8or — December 2, 2012 @ 6:25 pm

  27. I thought I was the only one foolish enough to pound a 22 round with a hammer as a young boy…scared the living crap out of my friend and I (don’t know what we thought it was going to do). Riding my bike home terrified a felt a tickle on my side and realized I’d grazed myself with shrapnel (probably). Lesson-learned.

    Comment by Rob — December 3, 2012 @ 12:27 pm

  28. I just remembered this one. A few years later, my friend Bob B. and I had taken to making CO2 rockets, using empty CO2 cartridges, filling them with paper match-heads and sending them rocketing through an old piece of water pipe for a few hundred yards, in a big cloud of smoke and a giant KABOOM!!! This was all going spankingly till we managed to acquire two boxes of .22 blanks=100 rounds of .22 shorts.

    So we emptied those into a CO2 cartridge (which ‘only’ filled it halfway), filled the rest with match-heads, and touched it off.

    Holy Sweet Sufferin’ Jesus! And that is not using the Lord’s name in vain. It’s for a reason. Sumbitch almost killed us both. That effectively ended our carreers in the CO2 rocket industry. We’d already gone as far as we could go, without dying on the spot. How we managed to avoid at least getting arrested is still a mystery to me.

    Comment by Hog Whitman — December 3, 2012 @ 7:24 pm

  29. And what will happen to all those people in Californa to poor to go through all the hoops to get any kind of firearm before they let all those cons out of the jails due to cost cuts?

    No cops, lots of cons, no way for a old folk to defend themselves against gangs of them. Week preyed upon by the strong and ruthless.

    Yep, that’s California.

    Maybe old blob butt Michael Moore can waddle out there and … nah that would never happen.

    Comment by Paul — December 3, 2012 @ 9:01 pm

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