Is this a gun bubble, or are loins bein’ girded?

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  1. That’s one of those things arrogance brings. The ability to reason is clouded, reactions aren’t what was expected and a “oh shit” moment is created.

    I wonder how they’ll try to skate out of the fact their efforts inspired millions to be prepared to defend everything they think is important.?

    Comment by Jess — February 1, 2013 @ 5:28 pm

  2. ^ Yeah,
    sounds like the “undecideds” are decidin’.

    Comment by DougM (Progophobe) — February 1, 2013 @ 6:00 pm

  3. I wonder how they’ll try to skate out of the fact their efforts inspired millions to be prepared to defend everything they think is important.?
    Even some of the screaming libs in MY area are purchasing firearms. This past weekend, there was a line just to get in all day, at the door for the weekend gun show.
    Oddly enough, even some of the folks who were and continue to be staunch Obama supporters are arming themselves, because there is “too much weird stuff going on”.

    Comment by Melissa In Texas — February 1, 2013 @ 6:12 pm

  4. I think there’s a number of govt. shenanigans going on here. All the ammo purchases by various agencies and similar stuff was dual purpose. 1) to arm the government, and 2) to deliberately create a shortage for the civilian sales they knew were coming.

    Comment by Caged Insanity — February 1, 2013 @ 6:21 pm

  5. I think the LEOs are ordering more than they need, to hog supply. Does the IRS really need 40 million rounds of .40?

    Comment by mojo — February 1, 2013 @ 6:29 pm

  6. [perhaps I should not say this aloud, but I have a connection to someone who has access to a gov agency range. If a round is dropped, they are not allowed to pick it up.
    They pay people to come pick up the unspent cartridges, which he sells by the lb.
    might I say... OH HELL YES?

    Comment by Melissa In Texas — February 1, 2013 @ 6:30 pm

  7. Does the IRS really need 40 million rounds of .40?
    all depends on what else they find in that damn bill they crammed down our throats!

    Comment by Melissa In Texas — February 1, 2013 @ 6:33 pm

  8. Today I looked wistfully at a box of swaged bullets I’ve had for a while – $7.95 for 500.
    Today, my range had the equivalent, what little stock they had, at $90/500, their long gun stock down from ~ 100 to 5 – those all shotguns, pistols from ~ 200 to less than 20, no primers except a few large rifle magnum, no loading presses except the display Dillon 550, what little powder left was limited to 1 lb/customer, no loaded ammo in .380, .45 or .223, and a long line waiting to rent a lane to shoot. (members get first dibs on a lane, renters queue.)
    Magazines (NOT clips, dammit) I bought a year ago for $8 are going at Cabela’s, Cheaper Than Dirt, Brownell’s and my local shops for ~ $90 – if you can find one in stock.

    I can make gunpowder – not smokeless to be sure, and cast bullets, but I’m most worried about primers. Can’t make them in the kitchen and can’t scrounge or repair used ones. The current shortage outage is going to severely crimp my practice.

    Comment by dick, not quite dead white guy — February 1, 2013 @ 8:42 pm

  9. Smith & Wesson stock (SMHC) a year ago: $5.24 Today: $8.76. It hit a high of $11.05 last October.

    As far as ammo &c goes, looks like we see the Law of SUpply & Demand in action. We also see the effect of Cornering the Market ( with the gummint buying up the supply).

    Comment by ZZMike — February 1, 2013 @ 9:22 pm

  10. Awwww Yeah Doug. Good info too. Look at all the tyranny going by this gubbamint over the people. We already too well what the 2nd amendment is *really* for.

    What is interesting is that people who wrote as far back a o8′ we gonna be in a big whole lot of doo-doo manufactured by this gubbamint were not far off as they were made to be. This is Cloward Pivens in living 3d.

    Comment by LLoyd — February 1, 2013 @ 10:20 pm

  11. to the topic:
    We have
    Fear
    Uncertainty
    Anger
    Girding
    Hoarding
    Scalping
    Preemption

    Comment by dick, not quite dead white guy — February 1, 2013 @ 10:21 pm

  12. There are periodic buying panics in this industry. Some days there’s better reason than others.

    Basically they’re *very* durable goods so manufacturing capacity doesn’t need to be that high – except during war or panics.

    Comment by Merovign — February 1, 2013 @ 10:54 pm

  13. CI (4)
    Bingo! and attaboy.
    I left that out of my post, hoping somebody’d point out that significant little tidbit.

    Yes, I think that may have been the gov’t's intent,
    to limit civilian ammo purchases by placing higher-priority
    gov’t contracts in the way.
    One thing they can’t control this way, however …
    foreign manufacturers.

    I look at it this way.
    If the gov’t places a restriction or embargo on ammo imports,
    we’re facin’ a no-kiddin’ policy of repression.

    Comment by DougM (Progophobe) — February 1, 2013 @ 11:01 pm

  14. I can thank Presidents Carter and Clinton for opening my eyes as to the need to “stock up,” “just-in-case.”

    I keep just the little I need close at hand, and the rest “elsewhere,” safe and dry but quickly attainable, also “just in case.”

    And no, no Federal agency, short of the military services, needs millions/billions of rounds of ammunition, ESPECIALLY the IRS!

    Comment by Mike (AZ) — February 1, 2013 @ 11:46 pm

  15. My loins need some girding.

    Comment by PeggyU — February 2, 2013 @ 12:40 am

  16. By the way,
    “girt” would have worked, too.

    Comment by DougM (Progophobe) — February 2, 2013 @ 6:49 am

  17. Yeah — what CI [4] and DM [13] said. Complex Market forces.

    It also pleases me no end to see my fellow Americans behaving in a way that says, “Whaddya mean tryin’ to tell me ‘I can’t'?!?! Oh, Hell NO!”

    This is the first time anyone This Faction of Humanity has tried to do this to a population accustomed to being the most prosperous in the History of The World. Telling US “You can’t have that.” [or can't heat your house to 72° or drink a 20 oz. soda or ... or ... or...] ain’t going over so well.

    heh.

    Comment by Claire: rebellious pink pig with car keys - and a *cause* — February 2, 2013 @ 7:05 am

  18. I’m willing to convert an old Lee single stage press to punch out primer extrusions, but need an Og grade machinist to help develop the dies and punches for the anvils.

    Then, I’ll need some chemical know-how and stock materials, so that I can figure out how to make a reliable and consistent priming compound. I don’t care if it’s corrosive, I know how to clean up after those.

    If we can bring some “make at home” primer technology to the market, it would further undercut the .gov’s attempts to corral the market.

    This is doable, folks. Much as I hate “progspeak”, this one is prime for a crowdsourcing effort.

    The Porch has the best crowd on the ‘net, so I’m rolling the idea out here to ye fellow minkees. Let the feces flinging begin!

    Jim
    Sunk New Dawn
    Galveston, TX

    Comment by Jim — February 2, 2013 @ 9:16 am

  19. I can make gunpowder – not smokeless to be sure, and cast bullets, but . . .

    Hmm. Without really knowing it, maybe that’s why I’ve been a fan of .45 Colt all these years. Plenty-O-Room for black powder in those cases.

    Comment by Hank — February 2, 2013 @ 10:32 am


  20. …in the comments he mentions using paper caps instead of the match tips.

    Comment by MitchM — February 2, 2013 @ 2:14 pm

  21. The above comment is a link to making primers at home.

    Comment by MitchM — February 2, 2013 @ 2:15 pm

  22. How ’bout this: take good ol’ black powder. Make some balls of lead (1/8″ to 1/4″ or so). Make a gun where you put the powder in through the barrel, then a wad of paper or some such, then the ball. At the user’s end, the trigger unlatches a flint-on-steel thing that sets of the powder.

    And I hear that mercury fulminate makes a good setter-offer.

    But as they say in the Middle East, you can always tell the old-timer bomb makers by the fingers they’re missing

    Comment by ZZMike — February 2, 2013 @ 3:29 pm

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