Comment by SondraK, Queen of my domain — February 2, 2013 @ 2:40 pm
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Comment by SondraK, Queen of my domain — February 2, 2013 @ 2:41 pm
Yannow…if one takes a photo of the photo then….
Comment by SondraK, Queen of my domain — February 2, 2013 @ 3:02 pm
Ever fired a shotgun sitting that high in your shoulder? My guess is he is going to Suck at golf for a week. Too many things wrong with that photo, but I really do hope he has the requisite shoulder bruise to go with his know nothing stance.
Comment by Melissa In Texas — February 2, 2013 @ 4:19 pm
You’d think a White House photographer would know enough about their job to stage the shot on THE OTHER SIDE of the Precedent so as to get his face in the shot.
Sort of like why we all despise Al Gore. I mean he lies, we know he’s lying, but it’s painfully obvious he’s just not any good at it. Bill Clinton, on the other hand, now day-um! THERE’s a man that could lie!
“A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the the very rich and your political betters to keep and bear $10,000 toys under controlled conditions, shall not be infringed.”
It would be interesting to go back and check his whole schedule for that day. On the other hand, assuming this White House is lying is a *pretty* safe bet.
I completely agree with the observations that there is no
visible signs of recoil, the lack of which might suggest
the use of blanks. 2. As others have mentioned, only
1 choke? Add to that the fact that a man who claims to
be a skeet shooter, he is aiming low which might suggest
a stationary target.
I would also like to add a few observations; I have shot a
number of shotguns. His stance looks wrong. Shotguns
have a reputation for fairly heavy recoil. Most people
familiar with shotguns tend to lean forward a little when
While I am not familiar high end shotguns, I question the
fact that smoke is shooting upwards a few inches behind
the muzzle, unless the barrel is “comped.”
If so, it is further proof that the president is a pussy because
real men are not afraid of recoil!
Compensated or not, there is no visible signs of recoil. I
could have put my Starrett precision machinist level on that
barrel. The muzzle should have risen several inches.
Comment by Leonard Jones — February 2, 2013 @ 5:43 pm
Mike (2) Wollf (19) ^LJ (26)
I was gonna skip the style critique; but, hey, nit-picky pilin’ on is what I do.
Yes, he is pointed low, but that would be appropriate for skeet station #1 aiming at the low house.
It would also be appropriate, if you’re just bustin’ some newbie practice targets. Hey, y’gotta start somewhere. No foul, there; but that ain’t skeet skeet.
However, there is only one extended choke (in the upper bbl), so he must be shooting trap, not skeet. In skeet, you encounter double targets, where you fire both bbls before reloading, and you wouldn’t normally fire the lower bbl without an extended choke like the upper bbl has, here. In trap, you fire once during your turn to shoot, so you only need one choke for one bbl.
He’s holding his support arm (his right) underneath as a rifle shooter would, not out to the side as a shotgunner would (need horizontal movement and control for moving targets, not a rifle’s rigid support for stationary targets).
He’s standing like a novice, back a bit balancing the weight of the gun. His stance should be a bit forward to control recoil. Yeah, he’s just fired, so the recoil would knock him back a bit, but it wouldn’t have, if he’d been in the proper forward stance.
The butt is a bit high on the shoulder, but beginners won’t have practiced the mount enough to get it just right every time. Could be, though, that he’s using a rifle mount which gets the comb up enough for a cheek lock. Dunno, really, need an expert, here. I ain’t. I just shoot a bunch and teach a little.
It’s hard for a rifle shooter to shoot shotgun without a lot of habit-changing. They are very different techniques, once you get into it.
Since he’s not wearing a shell/drop bag, he’s either shooting trap (with a stand to hold a box of shells just off camera), or somebody’s followin’ him around the skeet range handin’ him shells and pickin’ up his hulls.
(What? Well, I saaaid this would be nit-picky.)
mech (5), stoo (8)
That off-axis plume is from the ported bbl (small holes in the upper side of the last few inches of the bbl allow an upward jet of gas to push the muzzle downward, thereby counteracting some of the muzzle rise from recoil). It helps you get back on a second target quicker. You see it on handguns, too. Same mission.
Stilton (14) Melissa (21,23)
Okay, y’made me dribble my Coke.
Note: it was hard, but I bit my lip and swore I wouldn’t PShop the begeezus out’s this. Didn’t need to, as it turns out, eh?
Comment by DougM (Progophobe) — February 2, 2013 @ 6:07 pm
small holes in the upper side of the last few inches of the bbl allow an upward jet of gas to push the muzzle downward, thereby counteracting some of the muzzle rise from recoil
would this work on my sks that bruises my cheek?
Comment by Melissa In Texas — February 2, 2013 @ 6:13 pm
^ Porting* affects the rise of the muzzle, not so much the push into your shoulder. Since the SKS affects your cheek (and a lovely cheek it is), you might not be holding your cheek in a good “weld” against the stock (so it bumps). Also try pulling the rifle back into your shoulder more firmly. That will reduce the recoil’s bump and assure you have a good grip.
Here, let me show you …
[stands behind student, wraps arms around, presses hands and arms firmly on the gun, breathes down her neck, *ptooies* hair out of mouth … dusts self off, puts raw steak on shiner]
* Not to be confused with flash-hiders which don’t do much for recoil or compensators which direct some of the gases rearward to counteract the rearward bump (e.g. a 50BMG).
Comment by DougM (Progophobe) — February 2, 2013 @ 6:31 pm
Looks like a 410 shotgun to me…………….wuss……….
Comment by Colonel Jerry USMC — February 2, 2013 @ 7:13 pm
Doug, the other function of a compensator, at least on a .50 BMG, is to direct blast and sound back at the spotter, thus providing him incentive to get promoted to trigger.
Comment by Steve Skubinna — February 2, 2013 @ 7:19 pm
^ *snick* Reckon I’ll hafta take your word on that.
Comment by DougM (Progophobe) — February 2, 2013 @ 7:24 pm
Wait a min….. That shotgun is faked out. It’s an over/under but notice the TOP barrel is a bit longer, like some kind of blank adapter has been added.
First thought was there was a ping-pong ball exiting the muzzle, ergo kid’s toy air gun.
Then, why a comped over/under if there is to be no second shot (one choke?)
Yup, shoots like he throws – elbow low. Like a girl, IOW. Dominant hand elbow that low is asking for an inconsistent/slipping butt to shoulder placement and sooner or later busted chops, with rifle or shotgun.
Smells like – let’s get a photo op to show how manly and at one with all Americans Dear Leader is.
Comment by dick, not quite dead white guy — February 2, 2013 @ 9:23 pm
Comment by Claire: rebellious pink pig with car keys - and a *cause* — February 2, 2013 @ 10:26 pm
To Doug M and all the others who have taken the time to provide info on this, my thanks! As I said earlier, I don’t know much about the sport; apparently HE doesn’t either. Thanks to all for the education and the entertainment.
BTW, when the Men in Black goon squads come in the dark of night to haul yer sorry b-tts off to the gulag for foto-chopping this piece of instant Americana, I will send you a file with a cake in it as soon as you can smuggle out your new e-dress!
Despite this planned photo op, and all the discussion by myself and others, let’s not lose sight of the fact that while campaigning for Illinois senate, this POS stated that he didn’t think the citizens should be allowed to have any firearms.
Don’t be fooled. Not by the Dalaibama, nor by the Super Bowl commercials today put out by Bloomberg and Co.
The dirty rotten thieving cowards DO want to take ALL of our guns. They will continue to lie cheat and steal everything from guns to elections in order to further that evil agenda.
Continue to acquire all the guns and ammo possible.
We haven’t seen the REAL ugly yet.
You’d better believe it and be ready.
Comment by JoeBandMember™ — February 3, 2013 @ 6:43 am
That’s an extended choke. It sticks out a bit so you can screw it into/out’a the muzzle with your fingers. The bottom bbl probably has a flush choke which requires a tool (you’d never fire a shotgun with a choke removed, since it would honk-up the fine threads at the muzzle).
A skeet shooter would have extended chokes in both bbls,
but a trap shooter might have just one, since he’s only using one bbl during the game.
Sad news, indeed. I read his book “American Sniper” a while back. The guy was very, very good at what he did. I’ll wait for some details on his murder before I post about it.
Chris Kyle, SEAL sniper, RIP
Comment by DougM (Progophobe) — February 3, 2013 @ 7:34 am
If the time is programmable, then so is the date, no? A picture taken days ago…
DougM “the misprogrammed-time-in-the-camera story”
erm… not so much.
For you and I, yeah, mebbe, sure. But for a fella whose J.O.B.S. it is to take pictures of Teh iWon all day every day [*eesh*] and who can catch such a shot at the exact moment of *b00m*, I toss the BS flag.
Either he’s using a motor-driven [or the digital equivalent: don't fuss at me. *I* can't afford one] hot-stuff pro type camera — OR he’s just Real, Real, Real Lucky.
[Who doesn't flinch just a little at the *b00m*? ]
Comment by Claire: rebellious pink pig with car keys - and a *cause* — February 3, 2013 @ 9:33 am
What difference does it make at this point???? Said in Hillary’s voice——–
Comment by geezerette — February 3, 2013 @ 9:45 am
Whoa… I can now say for a FACT IT IS FAKE.
Notice the ports on the barrel. Notice NO SMOKE FROM THE PORTS FACING THE CAMERA. ONLY SMOKE IS FROM THE PORTS ON THE FAR SIDE OF THE BARREL.
And do not, Obama seems to have no recoul from the shot. SHOTGUNS KICK!